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Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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Post by odonnellryan »

zrail wrote: post #793
rootusrootus wrote: post #743

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, some of these features are available on the recently released hybrid, as well. What I would like to figure out is if it can actually backfeed the home with 240V split phase power. That would be a seriously big deal if it could, it's not a common generator feature as it is. I'm skeptical, but they did claim it could transition from charging to supplying the house and back to charging when the power returne…

The language on the site talks about requiring a whole house manual or automatic transfer switch. Plus the thing has a 240v outlet. (presumably split phase, 240v single phase is not common in US residential settings). I wonder if the wiring is basically plug the 240v split phase into a special outlet in the house that feeds the transfer switch. The 80amp charger is then just a charger. Could be completely wrong thoug…

That is basically how generators work.

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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Post by jameshart »

duffyjp wrote: post #358
leesec wrote: post #230

I'm really happy Ford and others are starting to actually deliver on EV's. I do however think there will be a long list of issues as they scale the roll out, given the newness and complexity of this product. Here are some concerns I think people should be aware of: 1. No comprehensive supercharger network. This is a real big deal still. Using existing non-supercharging networks is not feasible for any long distance.…

We owned a Ford plug-in hybrid. Amazing power, every creature comfort imaginable, great price-- what could go wrong? Sort answer: everything. It was an absolute nightmare. First and last Ford I'll ever buy.

By way of counterpoint: leased a C-Max Energi plug-in hybrid from Ford for 3 years; never needed any work doing to it. Was a disappointment when Ford announced they were walking away from the car market for trucks and coupes only.

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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Post by leetrout »

rhodozelia wrote: post #732
leetrout wrote: post #15

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Unfortunately compact pickups aren’t really a thing any more. As a homeowner and a parent this would be a great vehicle for me — having the utility of a truck bed. Not everyone that owns a home does work on it themselves but trucks are very useful. Today my only options are rent a truck or put a trailer hitch on my van and pull a trailer when I need to haul stuff. That’s so much more hassle.

Ford ranger is back Chevy Colorado and gm canyon Tacoma ...

Only in name.

2003 ranger:

188-203″ L x 69″ W x 65-68″ H

2021 ranger:

211″ L x 78″ W x 71-72″ H

2003 F150

207-244″ L x 79-80″ W x 71-77″ H

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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Post by acwan93 »

leesec wrote: post #230

I'm really happy Ford and others are starting to actually deliver on EV's. I do however think there will be a long list of issues as they scale the roll out, given the newness and complexity of this product. Here are some concerns I think people should be aware of: 1. No comprehensive supercharger network. This is a real big deal still. Using existing non-supercharging networks is not feasible for any long distance.…

>1. No comprehensive supercharger network. This is a real big deal still.

Yes. I considered CarPlay a must-have feature, but no EVs out there matched the Supercharger network, which led to a Tesla purchase.

>4. No Autopilot.

Tesla is definitely overselling this. The only real time I've used Autopilot for an extended period of time was driving I-5 from SF to/from LA, and other ICE cars accomplish this too.

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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Post by bostonvaulter2 »

JeremyNT wrote: post #550
gilbetron wrote: post #262

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That's what I was most excited about, and agree it is a game changer. Hopefully we can get small e-pickups at some point - I have a 2004 Toyota Tacoma that I love, and it would be amazing with a frunk, but you can't really get small pickups that size anymore.

> I have a 2004 Toyota Tacoma that I love, and it would be amazing with a frunk, but you can't really get small pickups that size anymore You're not kidding! I was in the market for a small pickup and checked out the Tacoma and Frontier, which I previously understood to be "small" trucks. They're massive these days, just like the F-150! I guess it's perceived that there's no market for that size any more. A small ele…

I wonder if there are hidden systematic considerations that make it so that trucks the size of Japanese mini trucks simply appear to not exist in the united states. Here's the first DDG link about these trucks: https://jpnautoimport.com/mini-truck%EF%BC%86jdm

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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Post by thallium205 »

13rac1 wrote: post #810
intrepidhero wrote: post #122

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Is anybody selling conversion kits to replace touch screen controls with physical or is that too hard/niche?

Mazda stopped using touchscreens: https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1121372_why-mazda-is-pur... > “Doing our research, when a driver would reach towards a touch-screen interface in any vehicle, they would unintentionally apply torque to the steering wheel, and the vehicle would drift out of its lane position,” said Matthew Valbuena, Mazda North America’s lead engineer for HMI and infotainment. > “And of course with…

Well that's what autopilot systems are for.

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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Post by burnt_toast »

bostonvaulter2 wrote: post #865
JeremyNT wrote: post #550

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> I have a 2004 Toyota Tacoma that I love, and it would be amazing with a frunk, but you can't really get small pickups that size anymore You're not kidding! I was in the market for a small pickup and checked out the Tacoma and Frontier, which I previously understood to be "small" trucks. They're massive these days, just like the F-150! I guess it's perceived that there's no market for that size any more. A small ele…

I wonder if there are hidden systematic considerations that make it so that trucks the size of Japanese mini trucks simply appear to not exist in the united states. Here's the first DDG link about these trucks: https://jpnautoimport.com/mini-truck%EF%BC%86jdm

From what little I know, I believe it's related to this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_tax

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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Post by scoopertrooper »

giarc wrote: post #620
JeremyNT wrote: post #550

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> I have a 2004 Toyota Tacoma that I love, and it would be amazing with a frunk, but you can't really get small pickups that size anymore You're not kidding! I was in the market for a small pickup and checked out the Tacoma and Frontier, which I previously understood to be "small" trucks. They're massive these days, just like the F-150! I guess it's perceived that there's no market for that size any more. A small ele…

The new Ford Ranger is a smaller size, but it's perhaps the worst looking truck available. I'm not sure what Ford was thinking there.

I don't know much about trucks, but I looked up both on the Ford website. The Ranger's front area is slightly curved while it is flat on the F-150. Aside from that, the trucks look identical to my novice eyes. I can't say I find either particularly appealing.

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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Post by thallium205 »

VBprogrammer wrote: post #194

I notice they make a huge deal about the towing capacity but realistically what is the range of this going to be hooked up to a 10,000lb / 5000kg trailer? Maybe if it's lucky a little over 100 miles? Maybe useful for some utility use cases but practically useless for the recreational vehicle market.

This YouTube video breaks it down. Basically they are god awful for towing. https://youtu.be/S4W-P5aCWJs

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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Post by rootusrootus »

wearywanderer wrote: post #785
rootusrootus wrote: post #743

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, some of these features are available on the recently released hybrid, as well. What I would like to figure out is if it can actually backfeed the home with 240V split phase power. That would be a seriously big deal if it could, it's not a common generator feature as it is. I'm skeptical, but they did claim it could transition from charging to supplying the house and back to charging when the power returne…

Backfeeding houses with generators is indeed a killer feature... but not in the way you mean. It can be done safety, but when done incorrectly (if the house isn't removed from the grid first) it can kill linemen. It's a good thing most generators a homeowner might causally buy at the hardware store don't have this feature. Unfortunately I've seen male-to-male extension cords sold online for this purpose. I think thes…

Yes you definitely have to get it installed by a licensed electrician (and possibly approved then by the local utility) if you are going to backfeed your own house.

It is good that people are aware of the risk, but in reality the risk is quite low. It is standard procedure for a lineman to ground a line he's about to work on, to mitigate the risk of any power source feeding it. But I'd never advocate a DIY setup. But damn near everyone I know with a portable generator has a suicide cord and just flips the mains. Ah well.

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