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Twitch will ban users for 'severe misconduct' that occurs away from its site

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Thanks for the additional context. > None of the things you mentioned are incompatible with the group Americans call “liberal”. Disagree. In some contexts leftist and liberal are distinct and incompatible things. In American politics, liberal often means 'progressive', but 'classical liberal' is typically associated with libertarianism. That's not to say a classical liberal cannot hold progressive beliefs, but it cer…

I'm not sure why you keep bringing up "leftist", perhaps a parent comment was edited but it looks like you're the only one who has used that term to describe Destiny here and the original characterization of him as an anti-racist liberal is 100% accurate by both the American and polysci usage of the term.

Because I think it's important to clarify -- many people in America use the term "liberals" to mean politically left. I wanted to clarify the poster's usage, did they mean this person was a classical liberal? A colloquial American liberal? The favorite-specter-of-the-Right liberal?

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Except if you went to chaz, it was actually fine and the news blatantly exaggerated reality for advertising $$

I watched the mainstream news and I walked down the street. The vast majority of news coverage was very favorable to chaz/chop. It was extremely unsafe after sundown, made that way by the residents of chaz/chop. Source: I lived 2 blocks away

Same, I lived 6 blocks away and when my lease expired during the turmoil, I left.

People here who say chaz wasn't dangerous should really look at how they propped up their own militia/security force and executed minorities.

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The word is often taken to denote a violent uprising. The Capital protests weren't particularly violent - the protesters didn't kill anyone (not to mention they were hardly an uprising). >Your claims here are like saying that the civil war wasn't an insurrection because the confederacy didn't want to overthrow the US government, they just wanted to form a different government. There's not that much of a parallel. The…

> The word is often taken to denote a violent uprising. The Capital protests weren't particularly violent - the protesters didn't kill anyone. False. > There's not that much of a parallel. The Capital protesters wanted to show resistance to the election being stolen from what they saw as the legitimate winner. The Civil War was, like, a war, and way different in every way. It wasn't a war at first. The South Carolina…

@dang fake news alert

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> So you want the government to force private companies to continue doing business with someone they no longer wish to provide services to? I don't think OP actually said this. But yes, like most people, I want this to happen sometimes. For example, I want a hotel to have to lodge Indian people, whether they actually want to or not. In other cases, I don't want this to be legally required, but still will complain if…

It's incredible stupid to say that protecting an ethnicity (something that can't be changed) is tantamount of protecting ideology (something you are not born with and something that sometimes includes advocating for violence). Also, no one is illegalizing anything by banning it from Twitch.

Did anyone here say that? I didn't and I haven't seen anyone else do so.

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"Terrorist activities, child sexual exploitation, violent extremism, credible threats of mass violence, carrying out or deliberately acting as an accomplice to sexual assault" falls under moralism and cancel culture? We've seen things that fester online that lead to real life tragedies or to the damaging of the fabric of democracy itself. Including insurrection on the US Capitol which took its roots on Twitter. There…

The Chaz was worse wasn't it, there were more deaths, it lasted longer and the participants were given very charitable coverage. Violence and lawlessness is ok if you're on the right team basically.

Cursory googling:

CHAZ/CHOP: 2 deaths Capital Hill Riot: 5 deaths

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> This is literally how the internet has worked forever. I don't know what specific fallacy is this, but stating that how it always worked does not mean it should have worked that way or that it should never change. Twitch would not exists without content creators. Neither would exist without the other. In that relationship Twitch has the last word on everything. I would argue that it shouldn't be this way or at leas…

Why though? They don't own Twitch. They didn't take any of the economic risk to start it. They're not on the hook for covering its server bills if revenue craters. If they wanted to put their money where their mouth is and buy a piece of the company proper, the current owners might be open to that, who knows. But you don't typically get to run a company you didn't start, haven't invested a dime in, and can walk away…

> They don't own Twitch. They didn't take any of the economic risk to start it. They're not on the hook for covering its server bills if revenue craters.

And yet with all the money in the World Twitch will close doors if all streamers stop streaming. Twitch is literally nothing without the streamers.

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> Your 2nd source links to Hasan saying "America deserved 9/11". Maybe it did.

It's hilarious that in a thread full of people hating on companies for deplatforming people for their opinions, you are getting massively downvoted for voicing your own opinion. Goes to show that no one really wants "free speech".

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Not if the evidence for such things isn't admissible. (like certain types of recordings)

Hmm, I wonder if the justice system has any reason for why some kinds of evidence aren’t admissible? Nah, they probably just want to let a few criminals off the hook for funsies.

Your sarcasm aside, there are obviously plenty of reasons why there are failings of the justice system and most people agree that the government isn't the sole arbiter of social accountability.

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This is just moving the goal posts (not to mention plenty of weapons and threats were involved). In all seriousness, at what point would you call something an insurrection? Go ahead and define it now, that way in the future when "X" happens you can't reply with "X is bad, but it's not an insurrection". I'm being completely serious, please define insurrection, in your terms, so that in the future I can identify it acc…

A mob occupying private land, for weeks (months?), and declaring autonomy under a radical, explicitly and overtly anti-american, revolutionary flag, threatening and ejecting any approaching officials, including medical services, with violence. Particularly when this mob is affiliated with a decentralized network throughout the united states with similar goals. Storming the capitol with weapons, having leaders with kn…

> there was no serious preparation

"Oh, please. Attempted murder? They don't give the Nobel Prize for attempted chemistry!"

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