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Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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A 67% increase of a 0.001% chance is just 0.00167%. 67% of android users in 2025 did not get their banking credentials stolen.

I think you need to check your math there. 40 million devices in 2 billion is 2%. Not 0.001%

Is the count 40 million devices or 40 million downloads? One imagines a world where malware downloads other malware.

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A Moto phone with GrapheneOS and the "chop / chop" gesture[0] to turn on the flashlight would be a dream. I'm, shamefully, an adherent to Moto hardware now because of that silly gesture. I use it multiple times a day. I had a friend with a late model Pixel try to replicate the functionality and he couldn't come up with a way to do it. It's silly, but it's too handy. [0] https://en-us.support.motorola.com/app/answers/…

It's funny, but double tapping the power button to switch on the light is one of the things I miss the most when using GrapheneOS.

Most android phones I've had have had this feature, either double press or long press to get light.

GrapheneOS means you have to turn on the screen, pull down the quick access, and turn on that way. It's quick enough, but it means squinting at a bright screen in the middle of the night.

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This is just developer fantasy. The average consumer doesn't care even one bit. Is the phone smooth? Does it have a good camera? Does it have a good battery? Does it last more than 2 years? Go to some developing countries around Asia and you'll be surprised how people prioritise features when buying a phone vs developed ones. The developing countries account for most of the sales of most phone manufacturers. Phones t…

I've been buying Google Pixel for almost 10 years now, and Nexus phones before that, and my current Pixel is the last Google phone I'll buy. The ecosystem is closed, Google is speed-running to 100% evil, they're locking down APK installations, etc. I need to find a replacement, and with me a lot of tech friends and non-techies that just ask me for advice. The market is waiting for someone to step in; this is a golden…

You can install GrapheneOS today on your Pixel.

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I’m pretty sure OP is being sarcastic. The companies I have worked for in the past have always sworn by Thinkpads. I don’t care who owns them Thinkpads are amazing.

I can only supply you with facts. Trust could be an emotional word after all. Using a device manufactured by an adversary-owned entity defeats the sole purpose of MDM. Your data isn't safe within an OS compiled by a Chinese company that "originated as an offshoot of a state-owned research institute." [1] There are so many layers where a backdoor could be hidden within the stack. I don't think Big Techs or any compani…

Okay, so which hardware are you buying that isn't using any Chinese components?) I don't think the empire can make this kind of hardware from scratch without China at the moment.

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I agree strongly with this. I would ditch my iPhone in a heartbeat for an open source alternative.

Librem 5 runs an FSF-endorsed operating system, PureOS.

I want so badly to try one of these but it's been out for a while and I'm terrified they'll announce another one immediately after I make the purchase...

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Because it was a work machine?

Yes...? Didn't stop me before. Unless it's some locked down, domain-joined e-waste like I have now. Public sector IT policy literally prevents me from doing certain tasks at my job, and makes others take four times as long. Not even my email works properly. Last job was a lot of SSH and webshit like Jira, Confluence, Odoo and Google apps. They didn't care if you used Amiga OS as long as your work got done.

didn't stop you before but stopping you now real good sounds like. So, WhY dOnT YoU jUsT iNsTaLl It AnYwAy?

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That is four words.

I was gonna be a smartass about how in my native language it would count as three words; but then I went and consulted Wikipedia and it was so dense with linguistics jargon I realized I actually have no idea what a "word" is. But the consensus seems to be that in English that would indeed count as four words ;P

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Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Counter-point; we are in times of mass upheaval and protest. Purchasing a secure phone is desirable to almost anyone who is increasingly worried about state and corporate actors, especially those that would seek to surveil and coerce. I suspect some will buy these phones as a daily driver, some as a second phone. Institutional trust is at an all time low, this is a smart move selling into the growing demand for secur…

Consumers, when faced with a $100 Microwave that will last 2 years and a $130 microwave that will last ten, will buy the cheaper one nearly always. They don't care. Consumers, when faced with a phone that offers "privacy" but that doesn't work with their banking app or their favorite game, will return it and get the non-privacy phone essentially every time.

Many consumers, is not all consumers. This play doesn’t need to swing everyone it just needs to be the preferred option for a commercially sized niche. People who care about security, in these times, is surely a growing demographic and fairly stable once folks value this first. Its sticky clients who won’t easily leave if this stays best in class as “most secure”.

Roughly 10% of buyers across most products and services will seek to buy “the best”. For those where the best is defined as “the best security”, Motorola (running GrapheneOS) has the opportunity to take these customers off of Apple. Not to say everyone is looking for a “more secure phone” but positioning that can seek to gain 5-10% of the mobile phone market, for a player who hasn’t had significant market share since the pre-iPhone 1990’s, looks like a no brainer, from Motorola’s perspective.

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Librem 5 runs an FSF-endorsed operating system, PureOS.

I want so badly to try one of these but it's been out for a while and I'm terrified they'll announce another one immediately after I make the purchase...

It's unlikely that they release a new phone soon. They didn't even upstream all drivers for this one yet, and the OS is currently based on an old Debian version:

https://forums.puri.sm/t/when-and-how-to-jump-to-crimson/300...

https://puri.sm/posts/pureos-crimson-development-report-dece...

Also, they are expected to release two new laptops in the near future, which was postponed a few times:

https://forums.puri.sm/t/is-the-librem-16-cancelled/22269/11

https://forums.puri.sm/t/2026-february-15-16-newsletter/3028...

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