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Why bother? Actors cost money and scheduling is difficult. Do the whole thing in AI - the model will be trained on better actors than your indie cast, anyway.

It will be a loong time before AI can produce lead actors that are believable, act exactly the way you as a director want and tell the story you want to tell, so I think at least for now you'll still need the actors for the lead roles. But I can totally this being used for generating people/stuff in the background of certain shots in a low budget movie.

> It will be a loong time before AI can produce lead actors that are believable.

A "loong time" will be sooner that most of us think.

The way this is done currently is similar to motion capture except that the tools are gradually becoming democratized: A single actor can act all the roles you need (You could even act the scenes and roles yourself). That footage is then fed into a model that generates an actor with the appearance and voice that you desire.

As a random on the internet, my prediction is that within a year, you'll be able to produce lead actors that are believable using movie generation plus smartphone footage of yourself acting the scene.

Initially it will be expensive to make a feature length film. But from 2025 onward, the cost will come down as the tools improve. These will be a different type of movie for sure, but every advancement in film technology has always led to films that seem strange compared to what came before.

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Facebook is already flooded with very strange (to put it kindly) AI boomer engagement bait AI images. I cannot help but think about how much worse the problem could get with AI generated videos. But they are not cheap to make right now.

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I've kinda given up on the internet at this point. It's sad but comforting. My social networks are just my friends and I've started to get back into reading books and long form blogs. Don't want to be exposed to this endless slop. Every day it gets harder to find something that was so easy before. It's all being buried by endless content. I'm hoping some non AI generative content branch of the internet will be create…

Yeah it’s tough. Could get the people to curate the content. Bookmarks used to be a sacred thing. I’m sure if we band together, the best sites are already known to someone, somewhere.

But yeah, read a book. Practice poetry. Go analog. It’s very rewarding!

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I've kinda given up on the internet at this point. It's sad but comforting. My social networks are just my friends and I've started to get back into reading books and long form blogs. Don't want to be exposed to this endless slop. Every day it gets harder to find something that was so easy before. It's all being buried by endless content. I'm hoping some non AI generative content branch of the internet will be create…

We need a more thoughtful internet

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I find the edit video with text the most fascinating aspect. I can see this being used for indie films that doesn’t have a CGI budget. Like the scene with the movie theater, you can film them on lounge chairs first and then edit it to seem like a movie theater.

In some ways it opens up creative possibilities

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Dude I clicked on some random Youtube accounts that were streaming the world cup live, and it took me a while to realize that they were actually just streaming video games replica of the actual game (at least, I think they were simulating the actual game with a video game, but I'm not sure as I didn't compare closely)

I've seen that a bunch of times, there's CGI highlights of most football matches. I still don't know if it's autogenerated from the original video or recreated manually but yeah it's pretty realistic for the first few seconds.

Someone once did the opposite - streamed a real pay-per-view UFC match on Twitch and pretended it was a game he was playing. It actually worked for a while before the Twitch mods realized what was going on.

https://www.theverge.com/2017/12/4/16732912/ufc-video-stream...

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It's just a technology. Much like you can still buy "hand made" shoes, there will be people that create curated hand made content. And if they use AI and you can't tell the difference, does it really matter? I really don't understand why there is so much negativity for a new technology. It's never explained, just taken as a fact and people bemoaning the new state of the world.

I'll tell you why. I think it's fair to say that most of the people who visit this site are technologists. Most of us love technology. So why are people reacting like this? Because we know how this will be used. We know of grifters and quick-buck schemes. We know that, unfortunately, the web as we know it is rapidly dying. We know of the scammers calling you with your loved ones' cloned voices. We know how powerful t…

Yeah, I have done some grifting myself but quit doing it but still know a lot of really creative grifters. I know what a tool like this can do in their hands. These people managed to ruin a lot of Google searches with just human labour and some very basic automation. I know what evil they can do with good generative AI.

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It's already bad, but the amount of garbage that is going to flood YouTube now is going to make it unusable.

No, it won't. Youtube is kind-of like Reddit or HN. "Good" stuff floats to the top, "bad" stuff disappears into nothing.

“Good” is not what “the algorithm” is selecting for.

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Facebook just spent 40 billion dollars on their AI infrastructure. Can they recoup those costs with stuff like this (especially after the VI debacle)? I doubt it. AI has been a wild ass jagged wasteland of economic failure since the 1950's and should be used with extreme caution by these companies...Like is it worth peoples time to spend ten\fifteen dollars (they have to eventually charge for this) to let AI create a…

You're right, Meta shouldn't invest in a breakthrough technology. They should focus on what really matters: delivering short term value to shareholders

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I've kinda given up on the internet at this point. It's sad but comforting. My social networks are just my friends and I've started to get back into reading books and long form blogs. Don't want to be exposed to this endless slop. Every day it gets harder to find something that was so easy before. It's all being buried by endless content. I'm hoping some non AI generative content branch of the internet will be create…

> I'm hoping some non AI generative content branch of the internet will be created.

Social media has been filled with disinformation and bot generated slop for well over a decade. AI or not, the internet is turning into shit until we come up with ways to filter it out. Maybe we need to build a section of internet where we use identity verification, the anonymous internet has all been turned suspect by malicious actors.

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