Build a bypass in the empty desert to the east of where the ship is stranded.
Deal with getting this ship unstuck in parallel.
Is that ship still stuck?
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Re: Is that ship still stuck?
#852Quite the arrogance here of mostly software devs trying to out -solutionize marine/shipping experts who undoubtedly have been consulted and are already looking for the quickest way to resolve the situation. With billions of dollars in stake, I'm sure even the most expensive experts are involved.
Better than the coronavirus takes I've seen from software devs...
Characteristic of any forum. We're nuanced wikipedia experts on every conceivable topic under the sun.
Re: Is that ship still stuck?
#853Earlier quoted context omitted.
Love the armchair engineers who think they're gonna solve this better than billion dollar companies
Yes, most here are armchair engineers, though quite a few actual engineers around, so you never know. But the embarassing point is: the billion dollar companies currently also don't seem to have an idea about the possible solution :p. I am pretty optimistic that they will come up with a reasonable plan soon, but there is a nonzero chance that someone here will come up with a good idea. Sometimes it quite helps to be…
From the actual engineers
https://www.tradewindsnews.com/casualties/salvors-warn-ever-...
Re: Is that ship still stuck?
#854Fun facts: 1. The owner is Japanese 2. The operator is Taiwanese 3. The flag is Panamanian 4. The cargo is Chinese 5. The insurer is British 6. The crew is Indian 7. The canal is Egyptian and was built with forced labor by the French 8. The dredgers/salvage op managers are Dutch
> The flag is Panamanian That's an interesting way to say tax evasion.
That’s not tax evasion. Tax evasion is explicitly illegal and if you do it you get arrested/fined an outsized amount.
The term you’re looking for is “tax avoidance”.
Re: Is that ship still stuck?
#855Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Some people have suggested unloading the ship. I don't think you realize the infrastructure required to unload a ship. It seems, though, that a partial unloading is being considered by a professional in the field according to quotes in an article in The Guardian [1]: However, Peter Berdowski, CEO of Boskalis, a specialist dredging company that has sent a crew to the scene, said data so far suggested “it is not real…
Perhaps the classic beached whale clearing technique [0] would work. [0] https://youtu.be/V6CLumsir34
> No respectable seagull would attempt to taggle[?] [the particles of dead whale] anyway.
Re: Is that ship still stuck?
#856Earlier quoted context omitted.
Go, go gadget globalisation! Seriously though that's pretty amazing. Fun fact: corporations used to exist for a limit period of time, to solve a particular problem, and were then dissolved. With the introduction of indefinite corporations, we end up with cool setups like those /u/throwawaybutwhy has highlighted.
When and where did they exist for a limited period of time? It never even occurred to me that this was an option
Apparently, in the Philippines until it was revised in 2019 companies are required to have a limited lifespan with a maximum lifespan of 50 years. (https://www.pwc.com/ph/en/taxwise-or-otherwise/2020/on-the-l...)
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#857Earlier quoted context omitted.
Perhaps the classic beached whale clearing technique [0] would work. [0] https://youtu.be/V6CLumsir34
Amazing reporting, highly enjoyed the narrative. Yes let's blow up a whale, beached as. What could possibly go wrong? Remains to be seen.
This pun deserves all the upvotes it can get.
Re: Is that ship still stuck?
#858Earlier quoted context omitted.
9. The destination is the Netherlands (Rotterdam). While we're at it, the 1956 Suez canal crisis marked the end of the traditional colonial powers when the USSR threatened to nuke London and Paris if they don't let Egypt regain control of the canal. https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/yes-1956-suez-crisi...
Small correction. Egypt do not regain the canal, they seized the canal. Not egypt, but the Suez Canal company was was not the legitimate owner of the canal. Interestingly, it was the disapproval of the US under Eisenhower that stopped the military action of Britain and France that ended their intervention. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suez_Canal_Company
Britain didn't really distinguish itself overthrowing the democratic government in Iran to protect BPs profits in 1953. I guess Eisenhower thought enough of this stuff.
Re: Is that ship still stuck?
#859Fun facts: 1. The owner is Japanese 2. The operator is Taiwanese 3. The flag is Panamanian 4. The cargo is Chinese 5. The insurer is British 6. The crew is Indian 7. The canal is Egyptian and was built with forced labor by the French 8. The dredgers/salvage op managers are Dutch
> The flag is Panamanian That's an interesting way to say tax evasion.
That's an interesting way to say we should obliged to all the shitfuckery the goverments do and not look for better countries for what we want to do. Competition between goverments to end their shitfuckery would be so horrible.
Re: Is that ship still stuck?
#860It will be weeks before this ship is free. Fuel and oil can be pumped out but that only makes up a fraction of the total weight of the vessel. Containers can be unloaded but again the lightest will be at the top so a significant number will need to be removed to make a big enough difference. And unloading them will be a slow process. You can maybe unload a few per hour with helicopters. There doesn't exist any infras…
They may have a shot Mar 30th - there's a high tide coming.