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Re: George Floyd Protest – police brutality videos on Twitter

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Post by ncallaway » Wed, Jun 17, 2020, 2:48 PM UTC

brigandish wrote: post #826

ncallaway wrote: post #544

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When other people have been downvoted, they complain that no reason was given. I am doing the courtesy of telling you why I downvoted you. If telling you why I downvoted you then also compels me to justify my position in an extended way, then I will not do it in the future. Instead I will just silently downvote when I feel it is warranted.

That's up to you but I'm sure you could put the effort in, someone else has.

Great. Next time I'll just silently downvote and move on.

I could put the effort in, that's true. But I'm not going to be obligated to, and I'm not going to be shamed into doing the work to educate you.

I'm glad someone else did!

Re: George Floyd Protest – police brutality videos on Twitter

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Post by ubermonkey » Wed, Jun 17, 2020, 3:04 PM UTC

Kiro wrote: post #646

ubermonkey wrote: post #485

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Given that TV ratings and audiences are easy to discover, it's weird you'd make this easily disprovable assertion.

What do you mean? Is there a legal definition of "mainstream"? The Last Airbender is topping the charts on Netflix. That surely must be enough for me to be allowed to call it mainstream and that a reference to it is not obscure. If you read the sibling comments they are trying to say NCIS is not mainstream at all since TV ratings mean nothing, making the opposite point of yours. You guys are impossible.

It's a question of scale. Many more people watch NCIS.

Re: George Floyd Protest – police brutality videos on Twitter

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Post by krzyk » Wed, Jun 17, 2020, 9:51 PM UTC

jennyyang wrote: post #845

krzyk wrote: post #841

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Intent is not obvious, unless you have evidence and that is to court to prove, beyond any reasonable doubt. Intent to kill is something a sociopath does, do you think police force has more of them than the rest of society? There was a time when vigilant justice didn't need court, but I don't think we want that to return (witch hunts in middle ages or lynching in 19th and early 20th century USA).

> Intent to kill is something a sociopath does, do you think police force has more of them than the rest of society? Actually, yes, they are filled with sociopaths. It's well known that lower-intelligence people become police. The police actively reject candidates with higher intelligence because the theory is that they become bored. Also, it's well known that the occupation attracts bullies, who love the idea of bul…

> It's well known that lower-intelligence people become police.

Any data?

> Also, it's well known that the occupation attracts bullies, who love the idea of bullying people and having power over regular citizens.

Again, data? Isn't it easier to become crook? More pay, less control, more freedom.

I know they are not PhDs but come on.

What you are doing is exactly the same what others do to different races/genders/nationalities, just replace "police" in your sentences with "black", "yellow", "women", "jewish" etc.

Hate against whole occupation, thousands of people. People start poisoning them (have you seen what happened in NY?), their children are bullied at schools.

Pure and simple hate crime.

Re: George Floyd Protest – police brutality videos on Twitter

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Post by grey-area » Fri, Jun 19, 2020, 10:54 AM UTC

vlozko wrote: post #133

grey-area wrote: post #87

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You're probably mistaking police flash bangs for fireworks. These devices are completely inappropriate for crowd control, but routinely deployed by US police in the protests.

Very unlikely. Fireworks use against the police more common that you think. You’re just not going to see that many videos of them as it doesn’t help the narrative. A buddy of mine is a cop who had the unfortunate duty of being one of the riot police in my city and it’s not easy to keep your cool while having rocks, fireworks, and almost a Molotov cocktail tossed at you.

I've only seen videos of police using flash bangs against crowds, which seems to be quite common in the these protests for some reason - completely inappropriate, just like shooting gas canisters or less lethal rounds at heads, not at ground level as they are designed to be used.

Haven't seen or heard of any fireworks, which you can be sure the police would not tone down in reports (probably describing them as explosive projectiles).

It certainly isn't easy to keep your cool if things are been thrown at you, but that's the job. It's not an excuse to violently attack protesters who are not throwing things or use inappropriate methods.

Re: George Floyd Protest – police brutality videos on Twitter

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Post by DanBC » Sat, Jun 20, 2020, 9:00 AM UTC

itsoktocry wrote: post #511

DanBC wrote: post #469

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So, for the example you provide the only contradictory claims come from accounts that have very few followers. The few posts saying "she was throwing things" have fewer than 10 followers. But, also, rubber bullets are less lethal, not non lethal, and so they should be reserved for situations where life is at risk. If she wasn't throwing molotov cocktails or bricks they shouldn't have used rubber bullets on her. The o…

> The few posts saying "she was throwing things" have fewer than 10 followers. What does the number of followers have to with whether a statement is true or not? That's absurd. Donald Trump and Elon Musk have tens of millions of followers on Twitter; I have very few. Does that make me a liar?

A large number of new accounts with few followers all posting the same thing points to disinformation.

But let's assume it's true: unless she was throwing bricks or petrol-bombs police should have used some other method to stop her.