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U.S. government will decide who gets to use GPT-5.6

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Post by WarmWash »

al_borland wrote: post #552
winterismute wrote: post #187

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Indeed, I find quite ironic that some people in tech in the US complain about EU "regulations first" approach, but then their government seem to arbitrarily stop things from being released because, well, there is no established policy on safety guarantees or other similar aspects.

> there is no established policy on safety guarantees Which is the government’s own fault. Elon Musk talked back in 2018 about how he went to Washington and met with Obama and Congress, but they did nothing. In 2020 Andrew Yang’s entire run for president was centered around the risk of AI displacing job. He lost, no one did anything. A couple years later we say the consumer facing LLMs start to roll out. Still, no on…

Deeper than that, what to do with a super smart AI has been floating around intellectual circles since the late 00's.

Google had been pussy-footing AI research due to deathly fear of awakening an ASI, because their safety teams still had no answers.

Then Altman came along...

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Post by throw315 »

LLMs have two avenues. One is the realm of self improvement in fields with verifiable output like programming and math. The other is natural language where they can't generalize super well, and therefore need a lot of new training data. Today new data means interactions with an LLM, which is what only the leading chat providers have. In both cases they will continue to improve and slowly replace white collar jobs. The biggest bottleneck currently is lack of hearing and seeing capabilities which isolates LLM training data input to entered text mostly. Once they start interacting with people by observing their behavior, almost all knowledge will be trained on. Then they will become adept lawyers and psychologists. Behavioural understanding can be only 5 years away. After that they will be limited by their navigation , i.e., robotics.

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Post by WarmWash »

naturalmovement wrote: post #444
overgard wrote: post #335

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Well, when the leaders of this movement go around doom-trolling for years on end this is what happens. It turns out you need to be careful what you say if you're a highly visible public figure. Amazing! Honestly, with open source models I don't think this regulation means anything because there's no way they can really regulate what's coming out of china. I don't think this affects innovation in AI much at all (unles…

> because there's no way they can really regulate what's coming out of china Do you think the Chinese will go parading around that they've created the greatest cyberweapon known to man, and the CCP will be totally cool with the Americans being first in line to buy tokens, because hey, free market? They would sooner put all their own employees in an incinerator than allow that to happen.

People genuinely think that China is just being a bro and has no ulterior motives.

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Post by WarmWash »

overgard wrote: post #787
drcode wrote: post #767

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the truth is that doom is a high likelihood sorry we don't lie about that

If they actually think that, then.. stop working on AI? Being the first person to end the world doesn't exactly gain you anything. I guess there's a bleak humor to Altman and Musk and Amodei being forced to live out the rest of their days in their bunkers I guess. Like seriously, to the people that think this is a doomsday thing, if you're serious about that line of thought then STOP DOING IT. It's like the people th…

Its a existential cold war now between the US and China.

There is no standing down until one side wins. Both countries would leverage (or hope to) an ASI to destabilize the other.

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Post by smilliken »

baq wrote: post #607
gsibble wrote: post #340

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HN is the most manipulated front page on the internet.

Top spot on HN is worth like $10M per hour or something, of course it’s manipulated, you should expect it to be

That extrapolates to $87B per year for just the top spot on HN, more than all of Instagram's ad revenue, or about 40x Twitter's. Or $240M per day, about 1/3 of the ad spend on Superbowl, just for the top spot.

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Post by mullingitover »

gwerbin wrote: post #830
thayne wrote: post #760

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> Only companies approved by the government will get access. There is no process for individual users to get access to the new model. That sounds like more than just export control. This means that big company A that the president has a business interest in could get access to the most powerful AIs, while a startup competing with it doesn't.

It's worth keeping in mind the broader context here politically. The president and his cabinet are generally pursuing policies of a strong unitary executive branch that centralizes "technocratic" functions under the control of politicians and political appointees. The majority in Congress doesn't appear to mind and seems to be actively sitting back from legislating on topics like this. The overall effect is that of c…

> The president and his cabinet are generally pursuing policies of a strong unitary executive branch

Or, and this is common knowledge, they're just straight up looting.

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Post by janalsncm »

ericmay wrote: post #823
oytis wrote: post #693

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So far it's only US doing this. I don't think it's in anyone else's interest to limit development of open source models or chips. Nvidia has secured a leading position in GPU market by being the best overall, but if US continues to mess up with the export, that changes the calculation and surely we'll see the alternatives

Any country that developed sufficiently advanced models will pursue the same path. The EU as a regulatory body would pursue the same path, as will/is China. It’s rather straightforward to think through. If China (they’re practically the only competitor) built a sufficiently advanced AI system would they allow it to propagate on the free market? Of course not. The fact of the matter is that they are behind, even if it…

> AI is and always has been a winner-take-all strategy

People claim that AGI is. AI is turning out to be a fairly competitive but “normal” product. Companies carving out niches on cost, quality, and speed.

If it was a winner take all OpenAI’s head start would have been decisive. For years ChatGPT was far ahead of everyone, then Anthropic released Opus 3, then OpenAI released 4o, then in mid 2025 it seemed like everyone had strong reasoning models including Google with Gemini 2.5, and now Claude is probably the best coding model. So taking the top spot is not a guarantee you can hold it.

Also the top model becomes a prime target for distillation, making it easier for competitors to keep up.

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Post by mullingitover »

tw1984 wrote: post #834
glaslong wrote: post #783

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Warm up your VPN to zAI for the eventual banned GLM-6 I guess

what make you believe that the Chinese gov is going to allow GLM-6 to be made publicly available?

Why would the Chinese gov...spoil their rival's tulip bubble by dumping even fancier free tulips on the market?

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Post by AzzyHN »

aristocrazy wrote: post #312

Given how the WH operates these days, this is ripe for corruption. Imagine the WH dislikes the CEO of a biotech company, while appreciating the attitude of a competitor CEO. What is to stop them from stalling on giving acess for the latest model to the company they don't like?

"Given how the WH operates these days" I've got bad news for you...

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Post by valleyer »

mym1990 wrote: post #831
raincole wrote: post #796

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> I can train insainly powerful models on my laptop. What's with this hallucination? The thread is about GPT-5.6 . Your laptop can't even run gemma 4 unquantized bfloat16, which is light years behind GPT-5.6, and running it is light years from training it. If something that a laptop can train is insanely powerful for you, you don't need to worry about this thread at all.

Eh, they said models, which can mean hyperspecific domains, not necessarily a massive generalized LLM.

Has the US government limited access to any non-LLM ML models?
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