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I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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I am not sure what opinion you thought I was trying to express. Evidently some sort of anti-censorship argument? To the contrary, my comment was explaining that the issue of US immigration has become highly polarized, and discussing highly polarized issues on HN is generally destructive, so probably we shouldn't attempt to discuss the issue here. This is closer to being a pro-censorship argument than an anti-censorsh…

You're advocating for avoiding polarised discussions because they degenerate quickly. I'm only pointing out that that's not the only option: you could allow these discussions while ruthlessly silencing bad faith actors (for whatever definition of "bad faith" you want to adopt). Those are both "pro-censorship" stances (although I prefer the word "moderation" to "censorship"), but they're going about it in different wa…

I see. Thank you for clarifying. I indeed had not understood you.

It sounds like you think the problem is the wrong sort of people. But almost everybody retreats into ego defense and partisan struggle under sufficiently threatening circumstances, even though some people are habitually more prone to that kind of thing than others. It's more about minimizing the frequency of the wrong sort of circumstances.

Additionally, though I think everyone is happy that I'm not the one running the site, I have observed elsewhere that your favored "ruthless silencing" approach has some side effects you may not be anticipating.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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You're right; the guideline to not submit most stories about politics was not present from the beginning, but rather newly added in May 02008: https://web.archive.org/web/20080527112502/http://ycombinato... But that greatly predates the changes in moderation strategies or hiring dang and sctb. Surely the understanding of the site's social dynamics has evolved over time, though, and so the reasons for the same guideli…

>But that greatly predates the changes in moderation strategies or hiring dang dang explicitly states they do it differently than pg it: when a thread turns into a political flamewar, we moderate it more than pg used to. There were many past submissions that neither users nor moderators would allow today [0] [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17014869

Thank you!

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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> New America is absolutely terrifying. New? I have advised people to not go to the US ever since they instituted the requirement to provide any and all social media profiles they ever had. Way too many chances for some off-context tweet from a decade or two ago to lead to getting refused at the border by CBP with no recourse. Additionally, anyone who ever got arrested in their life - and be it a conviction for marij…

A better advice would be to avoid social media. You don't have to broadcast your private life to the world but if you do you need to live with the fact that the world includes border control - and it included them even before they started asking for your accounts explicitly.

That a) doesn't undo past or even deleted social media profiles. Library of Congress has archived the Twitter firehose for years.

And b) it helps nothing against the host of other issues I raised.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Guess I'll die, can't find a country that will take me and my partners

I hate this new world and the rise of selfishness.

I like that people are starting to realize that their first world countries should not give up their resources and power altruistically

How the plunders are divided domestically is another issue but I’d be damned if my country was altruistic internationally

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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post #841

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You're advocating for avoiding polarised discussions because they degenerate quickly. I'm only pointing out that that's not the only option: you could allow these discussions while ruthlessly silencing bad faith actors (for whatever definition of "bad faith" you want to adopt). Those are both "pro-censorship" stances (although I prefer the word "moderation" to "censorship"), but they're going about it in different wa…

I see. Thank you for clarifying. I indeed had not understood you. It sounds like you think the problem is the wrong sort of people . But almost everybody retreats into ego defense and partisan struggle under sufficiently threatening circumstances, even though some people are habitually more prone to that kind of thing than others. It's more about minimizing the frequency of the wrong sort of circumstances. Additional…

Just to be clear, I'm not advocating for anything specific because I understand that the problem is hard. But I feel like some people want to have their cake and eat it too. If you don't silence certain types of discourse, you alienate certain participants (and HN understands this to a degree - you can't use racial slurs here, for example). Maybe that's acceptable - but you just have to be honest about it.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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post #595

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Did you look up Section 214.6(b) [0] before you posted? Curious how you determined >> A professional will be deemed to be self-employed if he or she will be rendering services to a corporation or entity of which the professional is the sole or controlling shareholder or owner. Do you have a link to the ownership structure of Holy! Water? [0] https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CFR-2012-title8-vol1/pdf...

https://www.instagram.com/enjoyholywater/reel/C-3VLghyiHy/?l...

I must have missed the ownership table in that video.

How much of the company does she own?

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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post #334

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> during the 1970s and 1980s If we go back long enough, the democratic party opposed Abraham Lincoln. We have to put a line somewhere. > According to Biden To be clear, I'm not a US citizen. If you think telling me that Biden lied is a shocker, you are wrong. I do think that in general he lies less than Trump, though. But to answer the spirit of your not-in-very-good-faith question: GDP means nothing if all the wealt…

I'm putting a line at the 1970s and 1980s and then explained how things changed immediately after that and that's when they started abandoning the working class. > If you think telling me that Biden lied is a shocker, you are wrong. I'm not saying you should be shocked. I'm giving strong evidence that your assertion that the economy was bad is wrong. What is your proof that the economy was bad?

The Republican party also finally turned away from racism as an explicit election strategy circa 2010, which probably helped it with non-white working class voters.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

Unfortunately, immigrants and other things were substituted in as enemies to hate.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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post #208

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Another moron who thinks trump saying something will happen means it actually happened already.

You probably aren’t paying attention but Trump has fulfilled more of his campaign promises in the last 2 months than Biden or Obama did in their entire presidencies.

Let me know when there's peace in the Middle East and Ukraine, inflation is fixed and the economy is booming, and health insurance is solved.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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post #737

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Musk, Trump and DOGE topics are all being flagged, even if they are relevant… The tech world has blessed this regime.

HN has never been unbiased. It is funded by a tech VC company and targeted at tech entrepreneurs. It has always promoted crypto and AI scams to an eager audience and pumped up one useless company that added nothing of value to the world after another. Despite that there has been a general interest in "tech" and clever things and intelligent discussion here that appeals to a reasonably broad community so the place wor…

I don't feel

>always promoted crypto and AI scams

is very accurate. In my experience it is pretty cynical about those

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

#850

Why is this flagged? First of all, it's about an entrepreneur traveling to the US for a startup, which is directly relevant to a significant proportion of YCombinator founders themselves. Beyond its direct relevance to the core founding audience of HN, it is not clickbait or wantonly inflammatory, and is clearly of interest to many based on the comment activity and votes.

Musk, Trump and DOGE topics are all being flagged, even if they are relevant… The tech world has blessed this regime.

Not sure it's that HN has blessed the regime so much as it's flagging them so it can get back to tech etc rather than 527 trump/musk stories. There's always reddit etc.
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