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I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by mschuster91 »

drumhead wrote: post #22

If the objective is to scare people off from going to the USA, then they're doing a magnificent job. I've heard other cases of people with green cards being arrested and put in terrible conditions, with absolutely no reason given. This woman was ready to go back home and not enter the US, but instead she was dragged through hell and only released because she was Canadian. All those with different passports get subjec…

> New America is absolutely terrifying.

New? I have advised people to not go to the US ever since they instituted the requirement to provide any and all social media profiles they ever had. Way too many chances for some off-context tweet from a decade or two ago to lead to getting refused at the border by CBP with no recourse.

Additionally, anyone who ever got arrested in their life - and be it a conviction for marijuana smoking as a kid and no matter if you actually got convicted, released or the records expunged/sealed - will either have to lie on their application (which is a bad idea because no one knows if the NSA doesn't have taps on other countries' judiciary systems) or have an additional arbitrary hurdle to pass at the border.

And on top of that you're in a conundrum: you have to book hotels, cars and flights prior to applying for a visa because you need that to prove you're not going to overstay... but if your visa/ESTA application fails, you're out a lot of money for nothing.

It's not just permanent or temporary immigration, tourists have been affected as well for years. But hey, the US seems to be willing to lose thousands of dollars for each tourist they scare off, so if it's worth it for them, I'll gladly spend my money somewhere I feel welcomed instead of like a threat.

All the 45th/47th admin has done is adding even more uncertainty to an already steaming hot pile of dung. At least our government has reacted and updated the hints on travels to the US [1], but shied away for now from issuing an official travel warning.

[1] https://www.spiegel.de/politik/usa-auswaertiges-amt-verschae...

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by blindriver »

ssijak wrote: post #69
blindriver wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every country is like this. Israel is the scariest but I remember decades ago crossing into Switzerland by train and in the middle of the night being woken up by border guards with barking German shepherds asking for my passport. I have so many stories it’s funny. On top of the other stories I’ve already posted, my friend who is Canadian drove into Buffalo for dinner and on his way back, they asked him where are you…

"Switzerland by train and in the middle of the night being woken up by border guards with barking German shepherds asking for my passport" What is exactly wrong here? They checked your passport and went on their way, that is how it works.

Nothing wrong. The previous poster claimed that the US Border patrol was excessively scary but my point is this happens everywhere around the world.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by gadders »

pjc50 wrote: post #71
AlexandrB wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Extremist positions on trans issues. To quote Sam Harris: "Congratulations, Democrats. You have found the most annoying thing in the fucking galaxy and hung it around your necks."[1] [1] https://samharris.substack.com/p/the-reckoning

I don't think that leaving trans people alone is extremist.

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Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by apples_oranges »

pjc50 wrote: post #66
apples_oranges wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder why agents in the field, customs, immigration etc, seem so eager to implement these changes.

Rhetorical question, or are you genuinely asking?

Genuinely. Are they all Trump fans that say "finally we can do what we always wanted to do" or what?

I mean there's the law or some executive order but there's also leeway in implementing. I am not qualified to judge but it just seems to be some sort of preemptive obedience.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by forinti »

apples_oranges wrote: post #49
drumhead wrote: post #22

If the objective is to scare people off from going to the USA, then they're doing a magnificent job. I've heard other cases of people with green cards being arrested and put in terrible conditions, with absolutely no reason given. This woman was ready to go back home and not enter the US, but instead she was dragged through hell and only released because she was Canadian. All those with different passports get subjec…

I wonder why agents in the field, customs, immigration etc, seem so eager to implement these changes.

I'm not a psychologist, but I'm pretty sure all police forces should have very strong and active civilian oversight, because they seem to attract (or maybe even nurture) some very aggressive people.

In my country, some police forces have skulls on their uniforms and vehicles. How twisted is that?

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by lenerdenator »

mandmandam wrote: post #67
Zambyte wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What was wrong with Harris?

All Harris had to do to win was promise to stop sending arms to Israel. Many, many polls showed this very clearly. 77% of Democrat voters wanted an arms embargo, and over 30% of 2020 Biden voters in key battleground states said that this issue was serious enough to affect their vote. > A Harris organizer who worked on youth turnout said that senior campaign officials gave them an order: When they sent out mass volunt…

> All Harris had to do to win was promise to stop sending arms to Israel.

Not sending arms to allies seems to be a good way to piss them off.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by pjc50 »

blindriver wrote: post #44
snapcaster wrote: post #3

This is horrible and scary, why border guards are even giving the authority to revoke visas is beyond me. When people think about giving cops/guards authority like this they need to be picturing the dumbest bully from their grade school. That's who is going to be using the power

Every country is like this. Israel is the scariest but I remember decades ago crossing into Switzerland by train and in the middle of the night being woken up by border guards with barking German shepherds asking for my passport. I have so many stories it’s funny. On top of the other stories I’ve already posted, my friend who is Canadian drove into Buffalo for dinner and on his way back, they asked him where are you…

There's a wide spectrum between being aggressive about asking for your passport and detention for weeks. While it's a slippery slope the extent to which it happens, and the extent to which prejudice is involved, varies a lot.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by ethbr1 »

ssijak wrote: post #69
blindriver wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every country is like this. Israel is the scariest but I remember decades ago crossing into Switzerland by train and in the middle of the night being woken up by border guards with barking German shepherds asking for my passport. I have so many stories it’s funny. On top of the other stories I’ve already posted, my friend who is Canadian drove into Buffalo for dinner and on his way back, they asked him where are you…

"Switzerland by train and in the middle of the night being woken up by border guards with barking German shepherds asking for my passport" What is exactly wrong here? They checked your passport and went on their way, that is how it works.

It was hilarious seeing the difference between the French and Swiss border guards on train rides.

French: laughing and talking, checking everyone's passports

Swiss: eyes scanning the car, papers please

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by hartator »

> to help launch an American brand of health tonics called Holy! Water

> contained hemp

The actual company name is hempandhoneynj? That sells “ HIGH THC IS FOR EXPERIENCED CANNABIS USERS”.

I don’t think weed is legal yet on the federal level. There is some grey ares are on the THC vs weed classification, but note that also harsher laws - like dealing drugs - could have applied here.

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