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OpenAI asks White House for relief from state AI rules

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Re: OpenAI asks White House for relief from state AI rules

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You mean there's nothing the White House can do under the rule of law. There's plenty the White House can do under the color of law.

I heard something today and I wonder if someone can nitpick it. If what the admin is doing is illegal, then a court stops it, and they appeal and win, then it wasn't illegal. If they appeal all the way up and lose, then they can't do it. So what exactly is the problem? Mind you, I am asking for nits, this isn't my idea. I don't think "the administration will ignore the supreme court" is a good nit.

The problem is that it's erasing a lot of precedent that has existed for hundreds of years in the US, and it's not apparent that the erasure will be a good thing for us. For example, the idea that the president has some kind of soverign immunity from murder or theft or graft while they are the president as long as they can justify it as carrying out a duty of the office is pretty abhorrent. Military officers in the US have pretty strict requirements not to commit war crimes and there is a pretty strong concept of an "illegal order." And what we're telling the president now is that because he or she is the executive there can be no such thing as an illegal order. So now the president can personally shoot people and they have immunity from that because they are the president.

And you have people arguing that on the one hand the executive has had too much leeway to regulate, but then in the same breath saying that the executive now needs to unilaterally ignore the orders of past congresses in order to fix whatever perceived problems have led us here. Which is a kind of irony that makes me think that this is being done not to solve problems but to reshape our government for some other end. And all of this is compounded by the legislature's unwillingness to exercise the exact power that they have been granted, which is to change the law of the United States.

So in this situation it's hard to see the courts siding with these people as simply rationally applying the law, because the law itself as written by past legislatures is simply being ignored, as are past judicial precedents, because they are inconvenient to the goal of dismantling the US government. It's also extremely dangerous because the "full faith and credit" of the United States depends on us honoring our commitments even when they are inconvenient to us.

Re: OpenAI asks White House for relief from state AI rules

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If it's a "self driving car" that the person "owns" - Yes. If it's a "Taxi service" that the person is using - No. If it's a car they own, they (should) have the ability to override the AI system and avoid the accident (ignoring nuances) - therefore owning responsibility. If it's a Taxi they would be in a position where they can't interfere with the operation of the system - therefore the taxi company owns the respon…

Oh? And how exactly do you suggest one override the electronics system of a drive-by-wire vehicle with integrated AI control, specifically?

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Re: OpenAI asks White House for relief from state AI rules

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No it isn't going to change, because it's part of our culture and we don't easily let foreign riff-raff in to corrupt that. If youre pinning your hopes of the future of your country on the peasants taking from the rich, youre going to be very disappointed. Usually it doesn't end well, and especially doesn't when the elite will just mow them down with military drones who will follow orders to the letter.

> and we don't easily let foreign riff-raff in to corrupt that. There it is I knew we'd get here sooner or later.

Yes and look at what a shithole your country is because of doing the opposite.

Re: OpenAI asks White House for relief from state AI rules

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Part of the thing about growing up is realizing that you are a PRIVELEGED little product of a stable society. And maybe it's worth caring about others in that society instead of "corporate innovation" that threatens to fully destabilize said society.

You don't know anything about me. By the way, how many regulators/states have "fully destabilized" society through war and genocide?

Do you seriously think corporate "innovation" isn't involved in wars and genocide?
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