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Zuckerberg claims regret on caving to White House pressure on content

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So what? Pavel nicked the entire concept of Facebook from Zuckerberg.

Hell even Telegram(esp in earlier days) looks like a Whatsapp re-skin to the untrained eye

Heh? I mean, how many ways could a chat app look? At one point, it’s just a list of conversations, clicking on one showing a list of messages.

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A few years back it started showing me obvious political ragebait. I ignored it and then it started showing me pictures of women whose nipples were obviously showing through their clothing, which was an improvement, but still not the reason I signed up for Facebook. I've always understood it as the algorithm is looking for engagement and will try some lowest common denominator tactics to engage in it. As someone who…

Same here. There was nothing I could do to get my feed to not be full of provocatively insulting and irritating political posts. I’d unfollow, unfriend, block, say “show me less of this” and so on. But when I’d unfriend some person, very next thing on my feed would be political content I didn’t like from some totally random person on my friend list who I’d never interacted with. Meanwhile I’d notice that people I act…

fbpurity.com

Try it out. I'm pretty happy with it; managing the feed doesn't feel like trying to hold back the tides anymore.

Re: Zuckerberg claims regret on caving to White House pressure on content

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Why does no one read the actual proposal before commenting? It specifically states that this only applies to individuals with 80% of their wealth in tradeable assets. No founder is going to lose control because this doesn’t apply to them!

Surely that would just mean no IPOs ever again right?

I can IPO, sell some shares and make billions but have to take 25% in tax or I can not do that and what happens? How do I turn my non IPO shares into profit? Presumably if you liquidate to cash you owe the capital gains right?

You’re still going to end up making a higher valuation on the stock market than you would trying other means to avoid this tax.

Re: Zuckerberg claims regret on caving to White House pressure on content

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> I just want to go back to where you could use facebook to share what you're up to and see what other folks you know are up to; but apparently that's too 00's to hope for. But do folks you know post? I’m under the impression that the slop churned out for clicks are all that’s left.

Over time, fewer and fewer of them post, and they post less and less. I post a lot less than I used to as well. At least in part this is because my feed is drowning in unwanted noise. Facebook's desparate attempts to wave stuff in my face 'for engagement' drive me away from posting more, so it becomes a vicious circle, driving down engagement, making people post less, round and round we go. Maybe I'm weird, but if my…

I also post less because anything I say seems to be immediately shown to the person most likely to be outraged by it.

I used to use it like a daily "here's what I'm up to today" blog, because my friends and family would see that and it was a cool way of sharing my life with them.

The, somewhere around 2014-ish, it was suddenly unsafe to post normal stuff without getting criticised. I had a whole series of arguments with folks about things that I or they had posted. I stopped posting as much, and started checking all my posts first, and deleting old ones.

Then in 2017 I got a stalker who messaged all my friends and family with shit about me. I had to make my friends list private and unfriend a bunch of people (no great loss). It felt even more unsafe.

Now I post travel pics and that's it. I miss the old safe space.

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In Pavel's interview with Tucker Carlson, he mentions how he (VK) met with Zuckerberg, and he told them new features they were planning. And Zuck nicked them all. Zuck is on a major PR campaign drive, I would not trust a word he says.

Tuckster is an "anti-elite" heir to a fortune who grew up in a castle. The only job he ever had was outrage baiting naive people. People like him are against regulation, but will clap any time big tech is dragged in front of congress. It's all a scam. You're being had. Why are you treating any part of his interviews as valid information.

I wonder if you're incapable of seeing what's amiss with your 'hack' job on Carlson.

Re: Zuckerberg claims regret on caving to White House pressure on content

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More to the point: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/06/scotus-tosses-cl... "On Wednesday, the Supreme Court tossed out claims that the Biden administration coerced social media platforms into censoring users by removing COVID-19 and election-related content."

Very funny that the initial case got lots of press on HN and got people like patio11 in a tizzy but when it was tossed out by SCOTUS there was nary a peep.

The headlines on the ruling can be misleading:

> Plaintiffs may have succeeded if they were instead seeking damages for past harms. But in her opinion, Justice Amy Coney Barrett wrote that partly because the Biden administration seemingly stopped influencing platforms' content policies in 2022, none of the plaintiffs could show evidence of a "substantial risk that, in the near future, they will suffer an injury that is traceable" to any government official. Thus, they did not seem to face "a real and immediate threat of repeated injury," Barrett wrote.

Re: Zuckerberg claims regret on caving to White House pressure on content

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post #841

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Hell even Telegram(esp in earlier days) looks like a Whatsapp re-skin to the untrained eye

Heh? I mean, how many ways could a chat app look? At one point, it’s just a list of conversations, clicking on one showing a list of messages.

There's tons of chat products that don't look like telegram or whatsapp. Have you used both of them?

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A large part of the United States' economic leadership is specifically concentrated in the tech startup sector. Whether or not you think any of the companies funded by YCombinator[0] are actually worth their valuation, you have to realize that there will be fewer such startups if a tax on unrealized capital gains is passed, and that VC activity, along with the future startups chasing their money, absolutely will move…

> you have to realize that there will be fewer such startups if a tax on unrealized capital gains is passed, and that VC activity, along with the future startups chasing their money, absolutely will move to countries without such a tax. That's a bold claim. The tax-averse amongst us say that, but in my experience investment flows to the best ideas / best distribution / best businesses. If those people are in the US b…

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Re: Zuckerberg claims regret on caving to White House pressure on content

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In Pavel's interview with Tucker Carlson, he mentions how he (VK) met with Zuckerberg, and he told them new features they were planning. And Zuck nicked them all. Zuck is on a major PR campaign drive, I would not trust a word he says.

> In Pavel's interview with Tucker Carlson He also said that he doesn't visit Russia anymore, yet a recent FSB leak indicates that he was frequenting there. And before that he heavily marketed Telegram as ad-free forever. And before that there were quite weird populist PR tactics when professional cryptographers pointed out Telegram's crypto is a mess. YMMV, but I wouldn't trust a single word from this guy.

Doubtful that he’s “frequenting” there given how he left the country. When the FSB (Russian FBI) demanded he comply with the laws and provide the decryption keys he had his lawyers send a prank letter to the head of the FSB with two physical keys (as in, the actual keys you open your door with) attached to it as a sign of “compliance”. Try that in the US and see if you can “frequent” the country after that.

Re: Zuckerberg claims regret on caving to White House pressure on content

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She didn’t even suggest that she supports that policy, it’s just assumed for some reason despite the fact that she’s already made her own choices on tax policy.

Her campaign supports Biden's 2025 tax proposals which includes tax on unrealized capital gains.

If you want to feel victimized (?) by a hypothetical tax on people with >$100M unrealized gains go for it I guess.
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