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The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used

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Re: The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used

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Post by Fire-Dragon-DoL »

ricardobeat wrote: post #513
NotPractical wrote: post #492

The baseline, preassembled model starts at $1000. Windows 10 Home, quad-core i5, 8 GB RAM, 256 GB storage, a nice 2256x1504 display, thin and light (1.3kg, 11.7" x 9" x 0.6"). Compare that to your other thin and light options at this pricepoint. XPS 13, $1020 * i5 * 8 GB RAM * 256 GB storage * 1920 x 1200 display * 1.2 kg, 11.6" x 7.8" x 0.6" MacBook Pro: $1300 * M1 * 8 GB RAM * 256 GB storage * 2560 x 1600 display *…

It doesn't look like a no-brainer to me (already a Mac user). The MBP has a better screen, better battery life, performance, has a metal body, is completely silent and has nicer software. That said, you should get the Air instead which is $999 with almost exactly the same specs, minus the annoying touch bar, and a tad lighter at 1.29kg.

Well the MBP is 300$ more, that's 30%,not trivial

Re: The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used

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Post by Abishek_Muthian »

mikenew wrote: post #124

Been extremely happy with mine the past couple months. The little modular port attachments seemed like a novelty at first, but now it feels absurd that you'd buy a laptop with a bunch of "hardcoded" ports that you can't ever change. The only real Linux related quirk I've run into so far is that you have to disable panel self refresh (it's on by default and causes stuttering). Other than that tiny thing I pretty much…

Thank you early user, Hopefully people like you would make enough sound that manufacturers come to their senses and put 'Repairability' back on the feature set.

It's not just the compute devices, I've been waiting for weeks for Samsung repair technician to arrive for fixing year old fridge. I remember going to showroom when I was a kid with my dad and the sales person used to pitch availability of parts, repair centers for the consumer electronic products.

Re: The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used

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Post by beezischillin »

If and when they’ll come out with a 15 inch or above sized version that’s shipping in Europe and my MacBook Pro 2017 gets long in the tooth, I will be looking at a Framework instead.

The replaceable port idea doesn’t factor into my use case - I’d rather have the 4 thunderbolts or a generous assortment of video output and usb ports plus a card reader, honestly. Everything else is really cool and exciting though!

Thanks to Apple’s privacy bungles I’ve already turned iCloud enabled features and their convenient integration into a nice to have from a necessity and cancelled my subscription so I can switch any time to an alternative vendor and lose very little apart from the clipboard sync, wifi phone calls and airdrop.

So I’m genuinely excited to switch to Linux when I need to.

Re: The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used

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dhosek wrote: post #552
mikenew wrote: post #124

Been extremely happy with mine the past couple months. The little modular port attachments seemed like a novelty at first, but now it feels absurd that you'd buy a laptop with a bunch of "hardcoded" ports that you can't ever change. The only real Linux related quirk I've run into so far is that you have to disable panel self refresh (it's on by default and causes stuttering). Other than that tiny thing I pretty much…

My first laptop bought way back in 1993, had a scheme where either or both of the two(!) removable batteries could be replaced with a plug-in module. I had one that gave me a SCSI port and another that gave me a 2400 baud(!) modem. It was better in theory than practice. You couldn't hot-swap modules (because this was 1993, after all) and driver support was iffy. I sold that laptop a few years later and didn't own ano…

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Re: The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used

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Post by eecc »

I understand the Thunderbolt hub is fundamental to the Framework concept, but I’m really let down by the lack of an AMD option.

I’ve waited months for Lenovo to sort their supply-chain issues and I’m still quarreling with poor drivers but the Ryzen in this T14s I have is just embarrassingly capable.

Re: The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used

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Post by eecc »

ericpauley wrote: post #253
mikenew wrote: post #124

Been extremely happy with mine the past couple months. The little modular port attachments seemed like a novelty at first, but now it feels absurd that you'd buy a laptop with a bunch of "hardcoded" ports that you can't ever change. The only real Linux related quirk I've run into so far is that you have to disable panel self refresh (it's on by default and causes stuttering). Other than that tiny thing I pretty much…

Maybe I need some convincing here. How is the "modular port" concept any different than a universal port with dongles (i.e., how Macs have been since 2016). To me the fact that the port attachments are recessed is little more than a gimmick. Especially as all of my devices have transitioned to USB-C anyway, dongles/"modular ports" feel more like a stopgap measure than one requiring a permanent form factor change.

Being recessed means you can leave them inserted while carrying the device.

Dongles significantly spoil the portability experience.

Re: The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used

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Post by rmason »

Jason Calacanis has an interview tonight with the founder of the Frame Work laptop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfVZhCTx6Tc&t=34s (starts 13 minutes in)

I checked out the site and found one problem with it. I had no way of knowing both the screen resolution and whether the hard drive it ships is SSD or not.

It is a very intriguing idea though.

Re: The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used

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Post by luckystarr »

nrp wrote: post #838
kjaftaedi wrote: post #751

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems like what they have is in high demand and they only have an ANSI keyboard, which is only really used by the US and China (and people that don't mind limitations) Once they offer an ISO keyboard layout, you would expect demand to be even higher.

In progress!

Any (non binding) ETA? :)
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