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Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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> To the "Git is distributed!" crowd: the issue isn't Git, it's the infrastructure we rely on around it: issues, PRs, Actions, etc. A suggestion: use git-bug https://github.com/git-bug/git-bug in addition to migrating to another forge like Codeberg. It saves issues, PRs etc in git itself (not on a branch - on a specially crafted ref). It offers two way sync with a lot of providers. Other VCSes like fossil store issue…

There is also epiq, which is a bit more bleeding edge but has a more powerful UI story, being a TUI app, providing an issue board in the terminal:

https://github.com/ljtn/epiq

Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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>I've felt this way for a long time, but for the past month I've kept a journal where I put an "X" next to every date where a GitHub outage has negatively impacted my ability to work2. Almost every day has an X.

I must be a filthy casual because I'm sure I can count on one hand the number of times a Github outage has affected my work.

Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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I can feel the frustation, nothing dramatic about expressing it This quote from the post resonated with me: > I want to get work done and it doesn't want me to get work done. I want to ship software and it doesn't want me to ship software. The sentiment is shared, and github is not the only service making me feel like that, it feels like everything on the web is more flimsy and low quality nowadays. Constant outages,…

Way overcomplicating design is one challenge that keeps getting worse. Another gigantic unspoken issue is that people have started building tons of stuff with React on purpose for some reason.

I'm so tired of this take that I've decided to create and publish a new React app every time I see it on HN.

Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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I do work at GitHub. I shared the above as a nuanced "yes and" to the pain that Mitchell is feeling. In the same way that Mastodon didn't replace Twitter even when Twitter went to shit, I don't believe in the various GitHub alternatives becoming a broadly-used thing. Maybe we'll end up with more GitHub-alikes like Codeberg, mabye we'll end up with some communities adopting novel forges like Tangled and Forgejo. But i…

GitHub lost me when Microsoft used my shitty code to train shitty AI without my permission.

Wym? They had a banner up for months asking if you wanted to opt out.

Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Hi there! Longtime fan and hubber here. It's okay to have emotions. I have similar emotions. I'm GitHub User 22723 which is effectively the same as you (considering there's ~180m GH accounts nowadays) My version of your post reads differently: "GitHub only gets better if people who give a shit stick around to make it better" Walking away would be easy. I felt that way when I left Heroku ~six years ago. I left that jo…

As someone with the ID 1653, I've totally given up on the thing. I've even created my own rust based forge, ironically, hosted on github at the moment.

If you are still hosting there I do not see how that means that you have totally given up on the thing.

Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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post #415

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I do work at GitHub. I shared the above as a nuanced "yes and" to the pain that Mitchell is feeling. In the same way that Mastodon didn't replace Twitter even when Twitter went to shit, I don't believe in the various GitHub alternatives becoming a broadly-used thing. Maybe we'll end up with more GitHub-alikes like Codeberg, mabye we'll end up with some communities adopting novel forges like Tangled and Forgejo. But i…

> But it beggars belief that most of the millions of GitHub's users would switch to something so much more complicated. Has the same energy as "20XX is finally the year of linux on the desktop". This is funny, because 2025-on seems to be starting some couple years of Linux on the desktop/laptop. Valve introduced millions of people to gaming on Linux, bazzite is exploding in popularity, and that popularity is pouring…

I found that part ironic and tone deaf as well. Like, read the room buddy. France just announced they're officially moving from Windows to Linux. The country of France. I think OP is looking for a single lynchpin moment where things change from one way to the other. Where in reality, things rarely happen that way. It's a slow and steady shifting away from one thing towards another.

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The problem is that Github does a lot . However, I consider that there is still not a great UI for the core service, in special for a complex project. In the other hand, I bet jujutsu has the best basic take, and is still missing a good forge.

But how much of that do people actually need? Most users don’t use most features. The core MVP is not that big.

The old saying goes: Everyone only uses 10% of what MS Excel can do. But everyone uses a different 10%.

The same goes for Github to a degree. Yes, there are hot paths that "everyone" uses, but also areas where most people never wander and other use daily.

Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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It really has been remarkable watching GitHub just crumble as an organization. There's a lot of discussion about why: the switch from being independent to being part of Microsoft, having resources pushed to Copilot instead of core service, the organization structure itself, a reliance on vibe coding, etc etc. Regardless of the reason, it's undeniable that GitHub is facing some serious issues. The unofficial status pa…

> insider perspective on this I do not work at MSFT but I don't feel that I need insider perspective to understand what's going on. GitHub is being managed the way other services get managed once they're bought by big companies. Initially fine, then starts to decline, then eventually craters. Everything becomes the numbers game. Microsoft, Oracle, VMware, CA (where software goes to die), Salesforce, the list goes on.…

> CA (where software goes to die)

CA got bought (ironically) by Broadcom 8 years ago, so now Broadcom is where software goes to die.

Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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It really has been remarkable watching GitHub just crumble as an organization. There's a lot of discussion about why: the switch from being independent to being part of Microsoft, having resources pushed to Copilot instead of core service, the organization structure itself, a reliance on vibe coding, etc etc. Regardless of the reason, it's undeniable that GitHub is facing some serious issues. The unofficial status pa…

Microslop only really cares about the enterprise customer. Those are slow to change, so once they're in github, they'll stay forever.
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