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Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Post by WesolyKubeczek »

mitchellh wrote: post #26

I know this is ridiculously dramatic, but its the truth: I actually cried writing this blog post (tears hit my keyboard, I'm embarrassed to say). Nobody should cry over a SaaS, of all things. But GitHub has meant so much more to me than that (all laid out in the post). I have an unhealthy relationship with it. Its given me so much and I'm so thankful for it. But, it's not what it used to be. I don't know. We've been…

If you choose something self-hostable (whether hosted commercially for you or no is of no relevance), I'm very interested to hear about it.

Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Post by superxpro12 »

_doctor_love wrote: post #138
tedivm wrote: post #8

It really has been remarkable watching GitHub just crumble as an organization. There's a lot of discussion about why: the switch from being independent to being part of Microsoft, having resources pushed to Copilot instead of core service, the organization structure itself, a reliance on vibe coding, etc etc. Regardless of the reason, it's undeniable that GitHub is facing some serious issues. The unofficial status pa…

> insider perspective on this I do not work at MSFT but I don't feel that I need insider perspective to understand what's going on. GitHub is being managed the way other services get managed once they're bought by big companies. Initially fine, then starts to decline, then eventually craters. Everything becomes the numbers game. Microsoft, Oracle, VMware, CA (where software goes to die), Salesforce, the list goes on.…

Hey, you leave Creative Assembly out of this!

Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Post by [deleted] »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #112
MarsIronPI wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I think a new GitHub will emerge and when it's just right, will grow like wildfire (like OpenClaw, or even GitHub itself did during the SVN and SourceForge era). And many are already trying to be that new GitHub. Really? I can only think of two: Codeberg and Sourceforge. Which are both great, but that's not what I'd call "many".

Gitlab, Bitbucket, Gitea

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Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Post by Nemo_bis »

celestialcheese wrote: post #6
arn3n wrote: post #3

What do we think is more to blame for GitHub's massive decrease in quality? I've heard the following theories: 1. Increasing amount of AI-generated code in their codebase, decreasing the quality of the service. 2. Bought by Microsoft, and their bad engineering culture has spread to GitHub. Perhaps it's a bit of both.

Azure migration is the most plausible explanation I've heard. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45517173

Azure also regularly has incidents due to capacity issues in several regions, so that many Azure-managed services also go down. Some of those incidents have been open continuously for many months now.

Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Post by [deleted] »

DrammBA wrote: post #34
mitchellh wrote: post #26

I know this is ridiculously dramatic, but its the truth: I actually cried writing this blog post (tears hit my keyboard, I'm embarrassed to say). Nobody should cry over a SaaS, of all things. But GitHub has meant so much more to me than that (all laid out in the post). I have an unhealthy relationship with it. Its given me so much and I'm so thankful for it. But, it's not what it used to be. I don't know. We've been…

I can feel the frustation, nothing dramatic about expressing it This quote from the post resonated with me: > I want to get work done and it doesn't want me to get work done. I want to ship software and it doesn't want me to ship software. The sentiment is shared, and github is not the only service making me feel like that, it feels like everything on the web is more flimsy and low quality nowadays. Constant outages,…

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Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Post by mamcx »

atonse wrote: post #22

During one of the x threads where Mitchell was (legitimately) complaining about Github, there were a couple replies suggesting that GitHub should hire him to be their CEO. And I remember seeing that and thinking "huh... not at all a bad idea." There is a specific kind of leader that can turn such ships around, and they are strong in their convictions, and aren't just "managers", but visionaries coupled with strong ex…

The problem is that Github does a lot.

However, I consider that there is still not a great UI for the core service, in special for a complex project.

In the other hand, I bet jujutsu has the best basic take, and is still missing a good forge.

Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Post by plorkyeran »

Reason077 wrote: post #45
celestialcheese wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Azure migration is the most plausible explanation I've heard. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45517173

GitHub claims that AI development tools have caused a massive surge in demand in recent months. They need to scale by 30X to keep up with demand. According to GitHub, Azure migration is the attempt at a fix/upscaling, not the underlying cause of the issues. Addressing GitHub’s recent availability issues: https://github.blog/news-insights/company-news/addressing-gi... An update on GitHub availability: https://github.b…

Github is claiming that a usage spike in 2026 is the cause of availability issues in 2025, so their explanation is clearly incomplete at best. The usage spike may be why things have failed to get better despite them putting effort into improving things, but it isn't the root cause of problems.
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