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Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by dylan604 »

hot_gril wrote: post #737
dylan604 wrote: post #125

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But Apple's integration means you can use it and not care if it is AI or not. It'll just become part of using iOS (let's face it, that's were the majority of Apple's users will be). From creating a new "genmoji" to any of the other examples of allowing people to do this without know WTF huggingface or the other equally ridiculously named products are. They don't need accounts. They just type a message and decide to p…

There's value in OS integration, but again, what are the real use cases? Memoji or whatever doesn't qualify. Apple has added a ton of features in recent years that I haven't used once. If it's going to manage my calendar in a way I can rely on or autocorrect will be smarter, that's useful.

If only they had shown examples of how they are integrating with calendars, emails, texts, photos. You should reach out to Apple's marketing department about producing better release videos that have examples of how the new features will be used. I bet they'd think it was a great idea!

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by tonynator »

maz1b wrote: post #170

Gotta say, from a branding point of view, it's completely perfect. Sometimes things as "small" as the letters in a companies name can have a huge impact decades down the road. AI == AI, and that's how Apple is going to play it. That bit at the end where it said "AI for the rest of us" is a great way to capture the moment, and probably suggests where Apple is going to go. imo, apple will gain expertise to serve a mons…

Yeah real smart move to make your products initials unusable and unsearchable. Apple has done it again

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by tjmc »

highwaylights wrote: post #603
ethbr1 wrote: post #334

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> I always saw this level of personal intelligence to come about at some point, but I didn’t expect Apple to hit it out of the park so strongly. Benefit of drawing people into their ecosystem. It's the benefit of how Apple does product ownership. In contrast to Google and Microsoft. I hadn't considered it, but AI convergence is going to lay bare organizational deficiencies in a way previous revolutions didn't. Nobody…

Ironically, I feel like Apple might have lost me as a customer today. It won't matter to Apple, obviously, but so much of what they showed today I just felt was actively pushing me out of the ecosystem. I first bought some devices for myself, then those devices got handed off to family when I upgraded, and now we're at a point where we still use all of the devices we bought to date - but the arbitrary obsolescence ha…

It will be interesting to see if there's an Osborne Effect on iPhone 15 (non-pro) sales now that the model is effectively stuck with brain-dead Siri.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by smileysteve »

jerieljan wrote: post #815
ethbr1 wrote: post #334

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> I always saw this level of personal intelligence to come about at some point, but I didn’t expect Apple to hit it out of the park so strongly. Benefit of drawing people into their ecosystem. It's the benefit of how Apple does product ownership. In contrast to Google and Microsoft. I hadn't considered it, but AI convergence is going to lay bare organizational deficiencies in a way previous revolutions didn't. Nobody…

For Google in particular, this was honestly something they could've done far earlier. They had the Pixel phones, they had the Tensor stuff, and then Gemini came along. But for some reason, they decided to just stick to feature tidbits here and there and chose not to roll out quality-of-life UI features to make Gemini use easier on normal apps and not just select Google apps. And then it's also limited by various fact…

Google couldn't figure out which messaging platform of theirs would succeed; imagine if the team working on hangouts or meet v1 had worked on RCS or context first.

RCS isn't fair, Google wanted the carriers to work on that, but in a disparate ecosystem they also couldn't come to a decision

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by iansinnott »

tonynator wrote: post #832
maz1b wrote: post #170

Gotta say, from a branding point of view, it's completely perfect. Sometimes things as "small" as the letters in a companies name can have a huge impact decades down the road. AI == AI, and that's how Apple is going to play it. That bit at the end where it said "AI for the rest of us" is a great way to capture the moment, and probably suggests where Apple is going to go. imo, apple will gain expertise to serve a mons…

Yeah real smart move to make your products initials unusable and unsearchable. Apple has done it again

Indeed. I suppose they are hoping people will associate the two letters with their thing rather than the original acronym.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by _ye0b »

StrLght wrote: post #489
Terretta wrote: post #437

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> I see no real difference between 2 and 3. This #2, so-called "Private Cloud Compute", is not the same as iCloud. And certainly not the same as sending queries to OpenAI. Quoting: “With Private Cloud Compute, Apple Intelligence can flex and scale its computational capacity and draw on larger, server-based models for more complex requests. These models run on servers powered by Apple silicon, providing a foundation t…

That's too many words with surprisingly little meaning. I'd suggest to wait for more technical details and to treat this as marketing until then.

You can read more here: https://security.apple.com/blog/private-cloud-compute/

But in summary 1. The servers run on Apple Silicon hardware which have fancier security features 2. Software is open source 3. iOS verifies that the server is actually running that open source software before talking to it 4. This is insane privacy for AI

The security features are meant to prevent the server operator (Apple) from being able to access data that's being processed in their farm. The idea is that with that + E2E encryption, it should be way closer to on-device processing in terms of privacy and security

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by Nition »

cchance wrote: post #769
frereubu wrote: post #758

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I think it would be clear that the picture was drawn for the person - I imagine most people would explicitly say something like "I drew this for you" in the accompanying message. And I don't know what kind of kids you've been hanging around, but my daughter would definitely appreciate a story that I spent some time thinking up rather than "here's something ChatGPT came up with". I guess that assumes you're not going…

You go into "HOW" you write a poem for your daughter? are you also explaining and rubbing in how hard you work to get her food on the table? Like wow, the amount of people here that want their "effort" calculated into the "love" cost of something is insane. I was brought up that the thought matters, if i think to call my mom she appreciates it i don't need to make some excess effort to show her i love her or show her…

With my original bedtime story example, I was actually thinking about the kind of story you make up on the spot. Like the topic request comes at bedtime, and maybe the child even has feedback on how the story should go as you're making it up. The alternative of the parent quickly asking ChatGPT on their phone for a story on the selected topic just seems not as fun and meaningful.

I guess in Apple's example it looks like they're writing it as a document on MacOS, so I suppose they are writing it ahead of time.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by gigel82 »

azinman2 wrote: post #255
gigel82 wrote: post #179

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No, no... Apple is totally cool and private. This is totally not like Recall at all, it's semantic index - and it only goes to the "private cloud" some of the times with your data.

Recall is taking screenshots and performing ocr, stored in what turned out to be clear text. Semantic index is spotlight’s next version, which you already have on your devices. It’s quite different.

Semantic index is doing an even deeper level of integration where clear text is pushed from iMessage, email and more so no need for OCR. Where Apple is worse than MS here is that this data may be pushed to their cloud in addition to local processing (with no clear guidelines on under what conditions that happen or how to stop it from happening).

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by xanderlewis »

tonynator wrote: post #822
doctoboggan wrote: post #44

Apple trying to rebrand AI = "Apple Intelligence" is a totally Apple thing to do. I'll be curious to see if Apple gets caught with some surprise or scandal from unexpected behavior in their generative models. I expect that the rollout will be smoother than Bing or Google's first attempts, but I don't think even Apple will prove capable of identifying and mitigating all possible edge cases. I noticed during the livest…

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Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by dylan604 »

theshrike79 wrote: post #644
FireBeyond wrote: post #501

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> but it looks to me of yet another example of Apple taking products and making them usable to the masses This is a bit obsequious to Apple. I find it hard to give a cogent argument of how ChatGPT is not "usable to the masses" at this point (and being -used- by the masses).

It doesn't integrate to anything, you need to explicitly give it context every time you ask it something. You can't just log in to ChatGPT and ask it what was on your calendar 2 weeks ago.

The fact that someone was even making this argument suggest they didn't fully comprehend the presentation or missed some salient details. How anyone could confuse anybody's current integration of AI tools be it chat or generative images into something so central to user's everyday life is beyond me. I would ask for examples of anything else the comes close
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