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Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by brailsafe »

card_zero wrote: post #372
brailsafe wrote: post #355

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Seems like you're... defending the exploitation of compulsive behavior. Most media platforms are designed to exploit the same behavioural patterns s gambling, and it makes perfect sense to be able to restrict the likelihood of undesirable possible intrusions. If you want to isolate the act of reading or doing anything else without the possibility of being drawn over to an endless stream of videos, seems like a joyful…

Well no, I'm defending the enjoyment of colorful games. Or picture books, or comics. And I'm disputing the idea that compulsivity is prevalent and that it's beyond the power of the user to say "this is dumb, I'm stopping now" when the only way the app tries to exert control is via little colorful animations. More realistically, I think it's irrational mindsets such as "I need the world to like me" (or something, don'…

I think the deliberate enjoyment of those things is absolutely something to value, and maybe coloration only has a small role in incentivized passive scrolling through media, but I think it's a hell of a lot better to not shit where you eat. If you want to play games, use your game playing thing, don't put yourself in a position where game playing or YouTube is easily capable of competing with other material that's also valuable but not nearly as stimulating or chance oriented.

I think it's pretty common for people to spend hours a day on their phone doing absolutely nothing of true substance, because activities of substance require intention.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by teecrow »

bschwindHN wrote: post #353
boochiboo12 wrote: post #45

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we're trying to underpromise and overdeliver, and our display can now do 60 - 120 fps, but believe it or not, our PDF renderer and software can't match that yet. So we're waiting till we can holistically do 120fps before announcing that. But if you do frame rate tests, you'll see its 120fps (for the nerds out there, its 6hz-120hz variable refresh rate IGZO)

How is the latency from input to visuals? For example on an iPad pro 120Hz, it feels really close to actually just moving paper around. Does the Daylight Computer match that input latency?

This is the big question. If they (or any company) can squeeze out sub-10ms latency for touch/pen interactions on an e-ink-like screen (like the Daylight), that will be a game-changer.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by Gormo »

boochiboo12 wrote: post #21

Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…

Apart from the product, your branding (font, logo, icons, colors) is very reminiscent of late-'70s/early-'80s aesthetics, and specifically reminds me of Digital Research. Was that intentional?

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by adiM »

schaefer wrote: post #657
adiM wrote: post #525

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Some links: https://www.reddit.com/r/ereader/s/ZpVE0dTM98 https://www.reddit.com/r/eink/s/LonNpgGAIF https://www.reddit.com/r/eink/s/YqUXfrZhnm https://www.reddit.com/r/eink/s/xmurkiHGam

Alright. You are putting together a compelling argument for both skepticism and caution before placing an order for merchandise from the goodereader store. (not something I planned to do) -- How do you feel about their youtube channel where they review all the various devices in this market segment? Specifically, have you ever found their reviews to be inaccurate? Do you know of any alternative source of reviews in t…

I found their reviews to be a bit too rosy and not highlighting the weak points of the products properly. But I do not find them to be biased.

The most honest source is Voja's My Deep Guide Channel on YouTube. Very detailed and informative reviews.

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Post by alemanek »

kernal wrote: post #739
alemanek wrote: post #303

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Adding an additional comment here for a little extra visibility. I would absolutely love, like really love, a USB-C portrait monitor version of this. If I could just plug this in to my existing laptop and use it for reading specs, technical docs, …etc that would be amazing. Android tablet is a tough sell for my employer due to compliance, security, and such. So buying one of those for work use would take like a year…

>Android tablet is a tough sell for my employer due to compliance, security, and such. I can only imagine how much tougher a Windows sell would be to your employer.

I have an M1 MacBook Pro. But, it is centrally managed, provisioned, monitored, …etc.

It isn’t that it is Android. It is that they would have to sort out all of those things on this Android tablet for just me. So, it is that it isn’t their device within their standardized catalog that is the issue.

Folks in my group can choose from Mac, Windows, and Linux options but we have to choose from the set of standardized options or risk approval hell.

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Post by balnaphone »

Eric_WVGG wrote: post #670
grishka wrote: post #627

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Your website does its own "improvements" to scrolling, thus on macOS it feels like I'm scrolling through molasses. It's repulsive even. Please, I beg you, just let the platform do its job. The tablet itself is interesting and impressive. I'm really curious to see that display in action.

The term is “scrolljacking” and yes it’s infuriating.

The site doesn't scroll at all on Firefox(X11) with ublock and umatrix, even when the non-tracking sites are enabled. In Brave browser it somewhat works in a janky way, but given that the site apparently brings a 24-core threadripper with 128GB RAM to it's knees, it certainly doesn't inspire confidence in the product, which otherwise looks pretty good.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by xhkkffbf »

boochiboo12 wrote: post #21

Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…

I love what I see. Too bad I don't have a need yet. But when I do....

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by circuit10 »

seanalltogether wrote: post #808
circuit10 wrote: post #751

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This isn’t e-ink, it’s a transflective LCD so that’s not true here

It's not e-ink, but it appears to be the same as Sharps "memory" display, which means it continues to show an image even after power is removed. They have extremely low power draw when displaying static pixels

They said it’s not bistable which I think means it doesn’t do that

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by hmottestad »

josmar wrote: post #764
hmottestad wrote: post #597

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I would recommend something bigger. There are several 13.3” e-ink tablets that will allow you to show an A4 sheet of music. There is even a dual 13.3” tablet that has two 13.3” e-ink displays and folds in half.

> There is even a dual 13.3” tablet that has two 13.3” e-ink displays and folds in half. Do you have a link?

https://www.reddit.com/r/eink/comments/1bp26hn/got_my_gvido_...

GVIDO used to make them, but it looks like they shutdown production. According to the redditor there are still some devices available, but they are hard to find. Might not be worth getting one if they are somehow tied to GVIDO's backend servers...

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