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What a strange parallel to draw when it comes to the actions of the current Democrats and Republicans in our House and Senate along with the current presidency and adminstration.
It's pretty clear that in the context of the comment the usage of small-l liberal was referring to the classical ideal, not the homonym label misused in contemporary American politics.
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No, no, this is about exactly right. When the CCP comes for Taiwan, the exodus will be on a scale unseen in our generation. It seems your family history has been blessed to not know this sort of existential crisis. For generations now, The US of America is, actually and literally, viewed as the land of salvation and opportunity for millions of people around the world. Do not pretend that it is not.
your appeal to emotion rings hollow. Did I deny that? My family viewed the US as such in the past. No longer, I can assure you. It is precisely because we have experienced life in the US and Asia that I feel that I can actually comment on this topic. If you seriously think millions of Taiwanese think this of America I would love to see your reaction when you travel there. Ohio, the Mojave, Alaska. Insulting on a whol…
Why is Alaska "insulting"?
Note: I live there, and it's awesome.
Ohio is also a perfectly fine place to live.
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> Getting the actual opinion of anyone in China ... is very difficult. Is it really that different in America (or the "west" in general)? Most of us have become very guarded in what opinions we share in the past few years.
That’s because people are aiming for single party control right now, in the US. The difference is that expressing an opinion to another American abroad just means you cant sleep with them. It doesn't cause the federal or municipal police to track down your family for intimidation, or the private sector to galvanize excision of them either. For the individual that voiced there is just a small risk of being disassociat…
Of course us western, middle-class white people think we're free, we think what we have is normal. Nothing's prodding us to question the status quo.
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Does that mean freedom is self-defeating? It comes down to a simple formula: are people learning and appreciating freedom faster than it's being diluted by people who are ignorant or disdainful of freedom? There's no fundamental reason one rate must remain above the other. Education, immigration trends, business, and culture all play a part. But once the anti-freedom are greater in number than the pro-freedom, then f…
Freedom is never absolute. You can respect other people's freedom to disagree with you, but not their freedom to kill you. You can choose to only stop them from the latter, but not the former.
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The US governemnt is inept and oppressive in its ways, but you are acting exactly as a hostile foreign agent would, stirring up strife and making exaggerated equivocations to create division.
From my point of view, being a foreigner to US citizens, it's the USG stirring strife, exaggerated equivocations like the Uygur genocide fiasco... All in an attempt to create division and weaken their adversaries. It goes both ways, the US doesn't get to be morally in a higher ground when you do the same things (or worse) as the people you're accusing. If you cut down on the jingoism, it's 2 global superpowers in a g…
China is not a global power, it is a regional power.
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A public university has to respect the constitutional rights of it's students though. So there would be very strong legal protection for pro China students. Edit: actually not sure if they are foreign nationals. Maybe someone knows if same applies?
> constitutional rights This is a false statement. The only regulation here is title VI and title IX. The administration of a public university is not legally part of the government.
Nope, you are wrong. There have literally been supreme court cases about free speech rights of students.
And yes, the supreme court has found that it is possible for a public school to break the 1st amendment rights of students.
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The Chinese government has seeped its way into nearly every facet of American life. This is most visible in Disney movies (see: the Mulan and Lion King remakes) but it is happening to many companies and universities where they use our own greed against us. I hope America will wake up and realize we have fighting a hidden war, but we are so divided I doubt we'll notice until we've lost, if we notice at all.
On the surface, this seems like FUD or at least exaggerated. Anecdotally, Americans across the spectrum are at least weary of China if not openly hostile. China does have a lot of corporate influence at the upper levels and corporations do pull many of the levers of government here, but on an individual level, I don't think it's that's dramatic. Although this topic has been sensationalized a lot, personally I don't t…
I don't think so. Just look at what Americans buy. Money talks. Lip service doesn't count.
>on an individual level, I don't think it's that's dramatic.
the frog just doesn't notice the boiling. For example how discussing Chinese origin of covid got branded as racist in the public mentality - i think that branding is a great PR success pulled by China which as a result turned public attention away from and severely eroded public support for covid origin investigation especially in the earlier days of pandemic when evidence/witnesses may have still been available.
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yup, abusive, and stalking. Including on HN - every single HN post that opposed CCP actions gets resistance from the handful of guaranteed downvotes to verbose advocacy. Russia has been the undisputed world champion of dezinformatsyia for over a century, but it looks like CCP is coming for their title , especially with their push into the US academic-military realm (and they are shameless about copying US tech, surpr…
> every single HN post that opposed CCP actions gets resistance from the handful of guaranteed downvotes to verbose advocacy That is so extremely far from the case that I think it may be a classic example of the notice-dislike bias ( https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... ).
It has just jumped out at me how consistently and reliably items on that topic generate those responses. It's also consistent with available open-source info on ops of the CCP and Russian govt. which include social media trolling to promote their POV, undermine rival POVs, and/or sow discord (and considering the ROI on such ops, they'd be negligent to not do them considering there's no resistance).
In any case, I'll take a closer look before commenting.
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That’s because people are aiming for single party control right now, in the US. The difference is that expressing an opinion to another American abroad just means you cant sleep with them. It doesn't cause the federal or municipal police to track down your family for intimidation, or the private sector to galvanize excision of them either. For the individual that voiced there is just a small risk of being disassociat…
Of course you have a point, but I just think that's a conveniently selective interpretation of the reality. I mean just take blackness for example, you don't even have to say anything for your life to be fundamentally undermined by the federal and municipal police. But what I think is more significant is Western foreign policy, freedom of self-determination exists in the weakest sense of freedom to adhere to Western…
I think you extrapolated waaaaay more than either of us were talking about beforehand. We're talking about the comparisons to what happened in the article.
Its a tricky discussion since many of us want to make these comparisons between the countries, its very tempting to, but without narrowly tailoring the conversation it just derails everything.