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Re: EFF is leaving X

#821

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I had that exact same thought. The argument they presented applies to any walled garden, they gave no reason why X would be the exception. It's clear this is about politics, and I'm not opposed to that, Elon is not awesome, but trying to justify it otherwise seems kind of shady.

It's pretty damn simple actually. Their target audience by and large doesn't use twitter anymore, either.

I would say that their targeting has changed, more than the audience itself.

Re: EFF is leaving X

#822
post #344

>The math hasn’t worked out for a while now. Have the costs to post to X grown too high? The salary of someone with the technical know-how to work the social media platform is too expensive? How does the math compare with Mastodon? Do you know about buffer.com? I started giving to EFF about 10 years ago. It's pretty much the first and only organization I have regularly given to. It always felt like a non-political or…

It's always been political, but it used to be non-partisan.

Re: EFF is leaving X

#823
post #440

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He did not do a Nazi salute. That is propaganda from legacy media. He has never even said anything remotely Nazi-like. He is pro free speech, pro humanity, pro USA.

"Don't believe your lying eyes", eh?

You must have simply missed it, because it was recorded and everyone with eyes can clearly see it. Maybe it's just not spread very widely in your media bubble.

Here's a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VfYjPzj1Xw

PS: You're defending a billionaire who would poison the water in your grandmother's neighborhood to save a few cents on his tax bill. Poor people like you mean nothing to him. He even treats his daughter like shit, just because she was brave enough to live her life as her own. He's a morally bankrupt person, who got where he is by treading on and abusing people, just like any other billionaire.

Re: EFF is leaving X

#824

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The story behind the numbers they present clearly demonstrates that X is censoring/shadowbanning them. Going from 600MM to 13MM impressions/yr -- losing 98% of their impressions! -- is no accident but clearly Musk's thumb on the scale. Imagine what this means if you are trying to gauge impact of a post. Remember, X is giving them zero information about who they're preventing from seeing it. Impressions is the main da…

They still get more engagement on X than on Bluesky. Also, cross positing the same content on multiple platforms isn’t time consuming. This is clearly EFF violating their stated commitment to political neutrality, and providing only a superficial and easily discredited rationale for cover.

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Re: EFF is leaving X

#825

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The story behind the numbers they present clearly demonstrates that X is censoring/shadowbanning them. Going from 600MM to 13MM impressions/yr -- losing 98% of their impressions! -- is no accident but clearly Musk's thumb on the scale. Imagine what this means if you are trying to gauge impact of a post. Remember, X is giving them zero information about who they're preventing from seeing it. Impressions is the main da…

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Leaving out key parts of a quote is a disingenuous way to attempt to make a counter-argument, especially when the full quote clearly contradicts your second sentence.

Re: EFF is leaving X

#826

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The problem they're not talking about is that for all the X users they could potentially help, their messages will be actively suppressed by the platform owner. Nate Silver, famously popular (...lol) with the online left, made a post about this recently: https://www.natesilver.net/p/social-media-has-become-a-freak... EFF is, politically, left wing.

> Nate Silver, [...] made a post about this recently Yeah and he put together an insane chart + data that's not tethered to reality.

What makes it not tethered to reality? Do you have a different chart?

Re: EFF is leaving X

#827
post #770

Astounds me that anyone is still using that platform after seeing how Musk treated the engineers when he took over.

That's just a drop compared to the ocean compared to this one time when he performed multiple nazi salute in front of an entire country, or when he single handedly decided to intervene in a foreign war via Star link control or when he messed with entire branches of the American government

> nazi salute, foreign war intervention, government influence

Leading with the supposed "nazi salute" really detracts from the other, much more legitimate and substantive issues you raised.

Re: EFF is leaving X

#828
Where is the EFF, what have you done with it?

Killed it and made just another shitty "progressive" sockpuppet, like what happened to Amnesty International?

There is stuff conservatives can support, but some shitheads decide they just must make it a "progressives only" club. Hurray for inclusion.

Re: EFF is leaving X

#829
post #463

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Just looking over recent posts, the EFF gets more interaction on BlueSky than it does on X despite 1/3 the followers and being on a much smaller site. I think that says it all.

What does it say? EFF has not bothered to engage with basically anyone that replies to them on X the platform at least since Dec 1, 2025. Searching for EFF replies from older posts also shows that they basically never engage with X users, apart from using it as an advertising firehose. If they spent any appreciable amount of time replying to people and not just themselves, their X impressions would be considerably la…

> EFF has not bothered to engage with basically anyone that replies to them on X the platform

Huh wow, that almost sounds like the interactions on X are low quality and not worth replying to. I can't tell because I don't have an X account and you can't view replies without one anymore, but every time I have seen the replies to posts on X they're always flooded with hate, bots, and scams. Seems like a good reason to leave.

Re: EFF is leaving X

#830
They make valid suggestions on improvements for X. Unfortunately, they undercut their credibility by complaining that their tweets don't get seen as often anymore. Sounds like sour grapes from a group that thinks they deserve special treatment.
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