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Why are 38 percent of Stanford students saying they're disabled?

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Re: Why are 38 percent of Stanford students saying they're disabled?

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Is it really gaming to get a doctors note to say a pet cat will make you happier?

My stepdaughter just started college. She told the tale of a boy and a girl who tried to claim that a cat was an ESA or service animal for both of them. The one cat. For both people. Just so happened that they were a couple in high school, and this was their effort to game the system to get assigned to a dorm together (the university generally wouldn't allow a co-ed dorm assignment like that, and had rules about rela…

Why would the university not allow coed dorm assignments like that or have rules about relationship overnights in the dorm. Kids going to college are adults why should those restrictions be there in the first place?

If you treat students like children, it's not surprising if they try to game the system

Re: Why are 38 percent of Stanford students saying they're disabled?

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> In general, being good at academics require you to think carefully not quickly. Yes, but to go even further: timed tests often test, in part, your ability to handwrite quickly rather than slowly. There is great variation in handwriting speed — I saw it as a student and as a professor — and in classrooms, we should no more be testing students for handwriting speed than we should be testing them on athletic ability.…

I can not think of a single test I have ever taken where I could be limited by handwriting speed. Most of the time on tests is spent thinking, not writing.

Lucky you.

Re: Why are 38 percent of Stanford students saying they're disabled?

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> Being diagnosed doesn't immediately mean you should be accommodated. This is the loophole. Universities aren't the ones diagnosing, they're the ones accommodating. The current meta-game is for parents and students to share notes about which doctors will diagnose easily. Between word of mouth and searches on Reddit, it's not that hard to find doctors in any metro area who will provide diagnoses and accommodation req…

> There are now also online telehealth services that don't hide the fact that this is one of their services. You pay their (cash only, please) fee and they'll make sure you get your letter. The same thing is happening with "emotional support animal" letters. This used to be a thing with medical marijuana as well (maybe still is?). The answer is for schools to grab their share of this money by selling each of these ac…

Poland recently had the famous "receptomats", mostly for medical mariuana, but also a bunch of other things people wanted.

You'd pay online and quickly receive a PESEL (local equivalent of an SSN) + a 4-digit prescription code, which is all that is needed to redeem a prescription there.

Re: Why are 38 percent of Stanford students saying they're disabled?

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It means that the action we should take in response to this article is "building more dorms with singles" rather than "we need to rethink the way that we are making accommodations for disabilities in educational contexts". That seems like an important distinction, and makes the rest of the article (which focuses on educational accommodations) look mistaken.

I worked in residential life while in college and can tell you that placing freshmen in singles is a horrible idea. It leads to isolation and lets mental health issues fester. Some need it but you do not want to place anyone who doesn’t into a room alone especially in their first year.

Lol, what an uniquely USA point of view.

Re: Why are 38 percent of Stanford students saying they're disabled?

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I suppose so, but nonetheless it still likely harms the rest of the students who are honest by raising the price of housing for all students.

The diploma or credentials should be marked with the conditions of admission. That would prevent abuse from those who don't or shouldn't qualify for special admission conditions.

And make real disabled people unemployable.

Re: Why are 38 percent of Stanford students saying they're disabled?

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Maybe the smartest, most promising young people in the country realize it is smart to claim a disability. I am not saying they don't have one. I am saying some people have realized ways it helps to point it out and maybe not everyone is clued into that.

Fundamentally I would be fine with this, the system exploits us so it's only fair to exploit it in return. Practically, however, my concern remains for people who need resources to support them.

These people are defacto exploiting others who are judged by tighter standards.

This attitude of it being OK to abuse some people because you feel like you're being abused needs to go. It's #$@%#@ childish.

Re: Why are 38 percent of Stanford students saying they're disabled?

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In a high stakes, challenging environment, every human weakness possible becomes a huge, career impeding liability. Very few people are truly all-around talented. If you are a Stanford level scientist, it doesn't take a lot of anxiety to make it difficult to compete with other Stanford level scientists who don't have any anxiety. Without accommodations, you could still be a very successful scientist after going to a…

> Being diagnosed doesn't immediately mean you should be accommodated. This is the loophole. Universities aren't the ones diagnosing, they're the ones accommodating. The current meta-game is for parents and students to share notes about which doctors will diagnose easily. Between word of mouth and searches on Reddit, it's not that hard to find doctors in any metro area who will provide diagnoses and accommodation req…

As a 100% blind person, I am schocked to read this. In a sense, my hunch that DEI is a big fucking scam has just been confirmed yet again. Besides, I wish a real, life-changing disability onto all of these faking people. The children, and their parents.

Re: Why are 38 percent of Stanford students saying they're disabled?

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Regarding Stanford specifically, I did not see the number broken down by academic or residential disability (in the underlying Atlantic article). This is relevant, because > Some students get approved for housing accommodations, including single rooms and emotional-support animals. buries the lede, at least for Stanford. It is incredibly commonplace for students to "get an OAE" (Office of Accessible Education) exclus…

Funny that it keeps getting rediscovered that the statement from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs includes two variables: needs and ability both can and will be reward-hacked.

Re: Why are 38 percent of Stanford students saying they're disabled?

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>Another big accommodation request is extra time on tests. Yep. Speaking from experience, top colleges will give students with ADHD or similar conditions as much as double time or more on exams. One college I know of sends them to a disability services office to proctor it, in which they simply don't enforce time limits at all. Coincidentally, there's an overwhelming number of students with ADHD compared to before th…

having infinite time on exams is level of the the ADHD cheating iceberg level 2 of the ADHD cheating iceberg is having medically approved methamphetamines to infinistudy before exams e.g. ritalin

Well, methamphetamine is very rarely (never?) prescribed for ADHD. Ritalin is methylphenidate.
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