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Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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I can’t help seeing ad blockers as fairless content consumption, like choosing to download films, musics and books without paying the creator and the distributor (VOD, MOD, concerts, libraries…). Sounds great for you but how would that work if everyone would do the same? Although we all be happy to se more competition, using an ad blocker on Google sites (and G-add financed-sites) have no positive effect for the comp…

Google doesn't exist in a vacuum. It's not written in the stars that Google must succeed. If Google's business model doesn't meet web users expectations then it's perfectly alright for Google to fail as a business. Businesses fail all the time. Google is not special or different. Google can adapt or die. Remember also that as Google has grown and captured more of the available attention and advertising dollars, other…

The other funny thing is Google could probably exist purely from its innovations. Its just too hard to convince the shareholders to give up on the safe and lucrative ad business.

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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> Mozilla and WebKit find security and privacy problems This is a little disingenuous because Apple often falsely claims security when it’s to hold back tech that could loosen the App Store grasp.

PWA is an antifeature anyway; it's an operating system inside a browser. This benefits companies that have market-dominant browsers and do not have operating systems; on a technical level it's just stupid.

I love PWAs when the alternative is Electron, I'd rather let one browser instance run my crapps since it improves memory sharing and other resource utilization.

I really like being able to install websites as apps too so my WM can manage them independently.

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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No, MV3 really isn’t more secure. MV3 still allows extensions to inspect your requests — it just doesn’t allow extensions to block them. It’s almost comical how weak the security/privacy argument for MV3 is. Chrome could have developed a sandboxed web request inspection framework to prevent data exfiltration, but they didn’t even try. Instead they nerfed ad blockers without adding any security.

I remember that another comical argument was performance. Supposedly, having extensions run in the background all the time is bad. So it's better to constantly, completely re-initialize them whenever an event wakes them up.

From https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBOL-home/wiki/Frequently-as...

>Keep in mind that uBO's own JavaScript-based network filtering engine has been measured to be faster than a well-known Rust-based filtering engine (though the measured difference back then was low single-digit µs, not something that will ever be perceivable by a end user).

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Apple actively removed PWA features to prevent feature parity with native apps.

Which PWA features did Apple and Mozilla remove on security grounds? What was Mozilla’s justification? What’s your justification for claiming they lied about it and it wasn’t for security reasons?

One touted security feature is that app store gatekeeps malware. It's praised as a killer feature of apple echosystem.

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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I'd be shocked if anyone actually believes them. This article starts with the obvious conflict of interest. Of course letting an extension know what websites you visit and what requests are made is an insecure lifestyle. But I still do it because I trust uBO more than I trust the ad companies and their data harvesters.

No, MV3 really isn’t more secure. MV3 still allows extensions to inspect your requests — it just doesn’t allow extensions to block them. It’s almost comical how weak the security/privacy argument for MV3 is. Chrome could have developed a sandboxed web request inspection framework to prevent data exfiltration, but they didn’t even try. Instead they nerfed ad blockers without adding any security.

Plus Google first entered the browser game with a toolbar for Internet Explorer that's main featured was it blocked popup ads.

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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The alternative already exists, processes using the system browser, for several decades now. Or actually learn how we use to ship software on the glory days of 8, 16 and 32 bit home platforms. Now I do agree there are no alternatives for people that only care about shipping ChromeOS all over the place.

You can't trust the system browser to be up to date and secure or for it to render things how you want. You can not guarantee a good user experience unless you ship the browser engine with your app.

Yeah sure but I use most web apps through the browser either way so I'm already in "possibly incompatible land" and you can reasonably expect any user facing device to have an updated browser OR one specific browser in case of embedded. We're not in Windows XP software distribution times anymore.

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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We need webmasters to nudge people away from Chrome. E.g. show an annoying popup on opening the page or add a small delay.

We also need Google to stop showing annoying pop-ups every time someone goes to their homepage, Gmail, or any other site they own. They also need to stop promoting users on mobile to open links in Chrome, when the user doesn’t even have Chrome installed, and has chosen the “default browser” option 100 times already. I’m so fed up with these nudges.

And most importantly these are anti-competitive. They are using Google's other markets to give them an unfair marketing advantage that other browsers do not have. Neither Firefox, Brave or anyone else can have these prompts on Android, Google Search. They are using an unfair advantage to take over the market against the common good.

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Consumers never really pick products for ideological reasons, no matter how galling that is to ideologues

I think ads go well past "ideaology". very few like ads, and they have only gotten more persistent over recent years.

And they slow down already dog slow web2.0 shit.
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