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I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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otikik wrote: post #188
twUewhag wrote: post #133

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Thanks, the EU is full and has enough immigrants. Why should EU citizens pay outrageous rents, compete against the whole world with their degrees, get lower wages and have prime property bought up by Chinese and Russian oligarchs? (This does not mean that people should be treated brutally at the border.)

> Thanks, the EU is full and has enough immigrants EU is full of old people and not enough children. The population pyramid looks like a bullet: https://www.populationpyramid.net/europe/2024/ It's not difficult to see where that leads to, if we stop accepting immigrants.

Lack of offspring is a direct result of cultural and financial policies that tell people they shouldn't settle down and prevent them from affording it. You can fix that instead of giving up your country's identity.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by account42 »

mrguyorama wrote: post #580
imtringued wrote: post #378

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The "immigration crisis" is silently saving the retirement programs of EU countries. People are xenophobic to the point of willingly engaging in self sabotaging their countries.

People would literally rather die impoverished, uncared for, and with no dignity in a failing system than maybe have a few brown people around who casually speak a different language and yet, by the testimony of everyone I've ever asked work ten times harder than any local for literally anything. Like, it's not a perfect solution, there are growing pains, but an adult someone else paid to give a high school education…

> People would literally rather die impoverished, uncared for, and with no dignity in a failing system

False equivalence. You don't have to give up your country to fix it.

> than maybe have a few brown people around who casually speak a different language

The state of most larger european cities is already well beyond that, bringing with it tons of problems.

> "work ten times harder than any local for literally anything"

That's literally saying they help companies regress the standard of living that locals have fought for.

Meanwhile overall these economic migrants are a net negative financial impact overall because most of them do not come to work but to benefit from generous social programs that they have never paid into.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by account42 »

thomasingalls wrote: post #345
twUewhag wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks, the EU is full and has enough immigrants. Why should EU citizens pay outrageous rents, compete against the whole world with their degrees, get lower wages and have prime property bought up by Chinese and Russian oligarchs? (This does not mean that people should be treated brutally at the border.)

Isn't it obvious that this has more to do with oligarchs hoarding wealth than it does with "being full" of immigrants? Immigrants are nowhere near numerous enough to be doing the kind of damage you claim, but the extremely wealthy do have a stranglehold on resources.

It's both. And immigrants help the wealthy class become even richer by providing cheap labor while everyone makes up the rest in social security payments.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by account42 »

mschuster91 wrote: post #91
drumhead wrote: post #22

If the objective is to scare people off from going to the USA, then they're doing a magnificent job. I've heard other cases of people with green cards being arrested and put in terrible conditions, with absolutely no reason given. This woman was ready to go back home and not enter the US, but instead she was dragged through hell and only released because she was Canadian. All those with different passports get subjec…

> New America is absolutely terrifying. New? I have advised people to not go to the US ever since they instituted the requirement to provide any and all social media profiles they ever had. Way too many chances for some off-context tweet from a decade or two ago to lead to getting refused at the border by CBP with no recourse. Additionally, anyone who ever got arrested in their life - and be it a conviction for marij…

A better advice would be to avoid social media. You don't have to broadcast your private life to the world but if you do you need to live with the fact that the world includes border control - and it included them even before they started asking for your accounts explicitly.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by account42 »

quickthrowman wrote: post #385
rayiner wrote: post #165

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> The only option then is draconian enforcement measures to create a deterrent effect. People should be afraid to come to America. Aren’t you a first generation immigrant? What if your family would’ve been scared to come to the US? Those are rhetorical questions, by the way.

> Those are rhetorical questions, by the way.

Why? Because you wouldn't like the answer?

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by debo_ »

AlecSchueler wrote: post #818
debo_ wrote: post #663

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I think there's also a reasonable proportion of readers who want "political" topics removed from HN, even if the topic intersects with HN-relevant topics. (I'm not one of them, but I believe many are. I appreciate where they are coming from.)

This would be more easily believed if political posts unrelated to contemporary American politics were also being flagged, but they're not.

I hadn't noticed that, but I believe it. Many Americans I know are in "blinders on" mode because the intensity and frequency of American political angst is overwhelming them.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by account42 »

Febra33 wrote: post #173

I have family in the US that I used to visit on a yearly basis, and as of this year I am afraid to visit them ever again. I'm an engineer with a very good income and a very stable life where I live. I would never immigrate illegally to the US to do some illegal job for scraps. And yet here we are, no one is safe. Anyone can end up in one of these hellholes.

No one is safe from putting fear in their own minds, yes. But you don't have to do that.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by mdp2021 »

johnnyanmac wrote: post #810
mdp2021 wrote: post #230

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> Quid pro quo ... inconveniencing Hitting the innocent is downright criminal.

By that logic, couttries shouldn't counter tarriff the U.S. and take it on the chin. Sadly the innocent are always the victims under leadership decisions. The method here involves angering them and hopefully overhtrowing the leaders who caused this. we'll see how it goes here.

> Sadly the innocent are always the victims under leadership decisions

What you have stated is that, following your view, "people should impale leaders".

> angering them and hopefully overhtrowing the leaders

And that you would pester John to turn him against Jack. What should happen instead is that John will rightfully react against you (possibly both of you), with justification.

It is very basic lucid plain logic.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by bobalob »

contagiousflow wrote: post #597
bobalob wrote: post #519

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In the case of prison policy, keeping prisoners strictly separated by sex, with no transfers of male prisoners into women's prisons allowed, under any circumstances. Prisons should of course have safeguarding policy for further separation of vulnerable inmates within the prison. Interestingly this is exactly what male prisoners with a transgender identity were requesting, according to https://www.newyorker.com/magazi…

Do you think the status quo of American prisons is good for anyone? I agree that this issue could be handled better, but as a non-American I've been horrified by many more things in the American prison system than this.

Placing female prisoners at risk of physical violence, sexual assault, rape and impregnation by male prisoners is an obvious wrong to undo, but I agree there are many other horrifying aspects of prison conditions that need to be addressed as well.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by account42 »

AlecSchueler wrote: post #527
refurb wrote: post #493

Apparently she broke several rules and it’s bordering on fraud. - She worked in LA on a TN that was revoked - She applied for a TN visa at the Canadian border and was denied - She then flew to Mexico to try again at the San Diego border (USCBP can see this and explicitly say not to “crossing shop”) - Her new TN was sponsored by a company she owns for another drinks company she also owns (you can’t self-sponsor a TN v…

So deny her entry and let her airline deal with returning her? Why did she need to be imprisoned? International Law says that if you're denied entry the onus is on your flight carrier to return you, which is a private matter between you and the carrier.

Denying entry is for honest mistakes. If someone is actively committing fraud you need to up the consequences in order to effectively deter others from trying their luck.
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