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Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by TheOtherHobbes »

xcv123 wrote: post #699
yreg wrote: post #485

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for explaining your thoughts.

Motorsports enthusiasts look at Nürburgring lap times. The Porsche 911 is at the highest level of performance on any track where you actually have to use the brakes and steering wheel. If the Cybertruck can do a good lap on the Nürburgring then its "FAST", but it probably isn't, due to weight. The 911 is not built for drag racing, it's built for a track with corners where you have to use the brakes and steering wheel…

But tow what? The bed is too small to be useful and so far as anyone knows there isn't an all-steel CyberCaravan or CyberDinghy in the pipeline.

Being able to tow big heavy stuff isn't necessarily a great idea, because big heavy stuff needs to stop as well as start.

If you're used to accelerating hard and braking hard, your big heavy stuff is going to have real problems with that.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by martin8412 »

SrslyJosh wrote: post #526
LTL_FTC wrote: post #297

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I think most trades would be better served by a van rather than a pickup truck. Ingress and egress is much easier. It is also easier to load and drive due to lower center of gravity. Expensive tools are out of the elements and generally safer (and so less risk of tools and material making their way onto the highway). Plus, better drag coefficient and so better efficiency. Finally, a roof rack allows for those items y…

Not to mention that a van's interior can serve as a mobile workshop, store a lot of smallish parts in an organized fashion, or both.

Yup, my dad worked as an electrician with an ISP for some years, and he had a van. Think it was a Ford Transit that was fitted with drawers and cabinets for tools and parts. It was literally a workshop on wheels. All the tools and parts you could imaginable need.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by ghosty141 »

kortilla wrote: post #737
dkjaudyeqooe wrote: post #722

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Sounds like owners will end up paying higher taxes due to road damage and tire pollution. Don't want to even think about what happens when you're hit by one of these things.

> Don't want to even think about what happens when you're hit by one of these things. As a pedestrian? The same as getting hit by any SUV

The sharp edges look like you would fare worse compared to other SUVs. The crashtests will probably show how bad it will get

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by iainmerrick »

kllrnohj wrote: post #392
liminalsunset wrote: post #96

Seems like there's been relatively less attention on the 48V/800V architecture and the Ethernet comms/steer by wire setup, but I think those are what make this particular vehicle quite interesting. Up until recently I think 48V power electronics have been fairly rare outside of telecom/other high cost situations, but I suppose one major difference is that at 48V, transformer-based DC-DC conversion is usually a better…

Lexus is already doing steer by wire, they used it to make a vehicle with a yoke that didn't suck to operate (as much anyway): https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2023-lexus-rz450e-steer-b...

Yikes! Even assuming it all works correctly and safely, who actually wants a steering wheel like that? What's the upside?

The only possible advantage I can think of is that when you start the car up again after having reverse parked, it'll be more obvious what way the wheels are currently pointing, so you can straighten up. But that's such a trivial problem.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by grvdrm »

rgmerk wrote: post #167
everfrustrated wrote: post #72

Faster quarter mile drag speed than a Porsche 911 _while also towing a 911_ That's incredible marketing. https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1730331223992472029

There is something quite shocking (pardon the pun) to older car enthusiasts about just how fast off the line dual-motor EVs are. The super coupes of one’s youth are utterly obliterated on the dragstrip, not by EV coupes, but by family SUVs and pickup trucks. That said, just because they can go fast in a straight line doesn’t make them in any way equivalent to a 911. Give me a mountain pass or a racetrack, (and no kid…

Yes - for me 911 or my ultimate dream: M3.

And the best part: you will still enjoy it even when you are going slow or sitting idle because both cars SOUND amazing.

Maybe I’m a purist but as a 41 year old adult I still sprint off my couch to look out the window every time I hear an interesting car pass by my house.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by martin8412 »

tgsovlerkhgsel wrote: post #713

One of the issues it'll face in Europe is weight. One source I found for the "cyberbeast" model claims a 6843-pound curb weight. That's 3.1 metric tons. While there are discussions for special allowances for electric cars, the current limit of what you're allowed to drive with a normal driving license in the EU is 3.5 tons of gross vehicle weight rating. In other words, in order to allow most people to drive the Cybe…

And due to the weight, it needs to be speed limited to 60mph or less depending on the country.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by paulus_magnus2 »

Elon did his usual "escape forward" trick but in the end this iteration does not deliver what was promised.

I reserved a $40k truck in 2019 that was supposed to be much easier to manufacture than regular cars - hence the relatively good price. No expensive paint shop, much easier line to make body panels of cold rolled steel bent into shape. Exaskeleton from a single. Industrial design, no side mirrors, no wipers. 6 passengers.

We should ask ourselvelves are the original promises still possible under a different package? And please make it road legal for Europeans with a regular driving licence.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by sschueller »

tgsovlerkhgsel wrote: post #713

One of the issues it'll face in Europe is weight. One source I found for the "cyberbeast" model claims a 6843-pound curb weight. That's 3.1 metric tons. While there are discussions for special allowances for electric cars, the current limit of what you're allowed to drive with a normal driving license in the EU is 3.5 tons of gross vehicle weight rating. In other words, in order to allow most people to drive the Cybe…

This weight limit is a good thing. You don't want amateurs driving such heavy vehicles around and killing people because they don't know how to handle it.

You can still drive one but you got to get another license.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by jcgrillo »

xcv123 wrote: post #699
yreg wrote: post #485

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for explaining your thoughts.

Motorsports enthusiasts look at Nürburgring lap times. The Porsche 911 is at the highest level of performance on any track where you actually have to use the brakes and steering wheel. If the Cybertruck can do a good lap on the Nürburgring then its "FAST", but it probably isn't, due to weight. The 911 is not built for drag racing, it's built for a track with corners where you have to use the brakes and steering wheel…

Can electric vehicles (let alone this absurdly ridiculous example) reliably make it around the 'ring more than once without having to recharge? It seems like EV range drops off a cliff in all but the most idyllic driving conditions--flat road, minimal acceleration (cruise control), room temperature, no precipitation, aerodynamically clean, unladen. Add load, off-nominal temp, snow, drag, weight, etc. and range drops precipitously. One example I know of is a Model 3 doing a cross-country road trip in winter with two adults and their luggage couldn't do more than 75mi range per charge in Montana due to strong crosswinds. It would be great to see some actual data on off-nominal performance, which is what actually matters for a utility vehicle as opposed to a road toy.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by poulpy123 »

andyjohnson0 wrote: post #820

It's a brutally agressive looking machine - I assume intentionally so. That flat front pretty much guarantees padestrian/cyclist/motorcyclist fatailities in a collision. And over on Ars Technica they say "Musk implied that in a crash with another vehicle, the Cybertruck [...] will destroy the other vehicle." [1] - and presumably therefore kills its occupants too. Opinion: this is the purest physical realisation of th…

what I don't get is why the effect of a crash on other isn't taken into account in the evaluation of car safety
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