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Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by heavyset_go »

jarrettcoggin wrote: post #723
Closi wrote: post #696

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Musk has proven to be a 'get shit done' kind of guy though, so if he did want to push through changes he certainly has the capability to do it.

He often doesn't do things "by the book" and will not wait for what he thinks is unnecessary red-tape. He will skirt around regulations and taunt the process the entire way. We've seen it many times before, and it's always purely in the benefit of whatever company he's helping at the time. He has no problem throwing people/money/etc. at the problem to get the result he wants and if someone so much as says the opposit…

> He has no problem throwing people/money/etc. at the problem to get the result he wants and if someone so much as says the opposite, they are removed from the equation (fired, publicly ridiculed, etc.).

Not just fired or ridiculed, Musk and Tesla have also tried to have a whistleblower murdered by accusing them of being a mass shooter and having them SWAT'd[1].

[1] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2019-03-13/when-elon...

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by mjfl »

beaconstudios wrote: post #165
AustinDev wrote: post #147

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An employee exodus from Twitter would only be a good thing in my eyes. They're all too ideological from my experience.

The company will still be ideological, but will simply follow Musk's ideology. Whether that's good or not depends on if you agree with him - I don't.

well our world is ideological now. You don't get to choose 'no ideology' anymore. You have to choose. And Musk's is least bad to me.

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by IIAOPSW »

PostOnce wrote: post #698
fleddr wrote: post #678

I think people are really over-analyzing this move. I think it's motivated by prestige, not money, nor is free speech the heart of the matter. Twitter is a stagnant company. They have thousands of engineers that in the span of a decade don't seem to produce much at all, nothing visible or memorable anyway. Long-lasting Twitter problems (culture, spam, algorithm issues) never seem addressed. User growth is stagnating…

"stagnant company" Why must every company sustain boundless growth and 24-hour engagement? Change and growth for their own sake can be cancers. Twitter does what it does and people like it (as seen by the fact that they all use it), yet armchair generals cry out that twitter's refusal to turn into "not twitter" is somehow a failure of engineering and management, or some form of incompetence. So, I disagree, I guess.

The shareholders ain't here to fuck spiders.

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by sillysaurusx »

fleddr wrote: post #678

I think people are really over-analyzing this move. I think it's motivated by prestige, not money, nor is free speech the heart of the matter. Twitter is a stagnant company. They have thousands of engineers that in the span of a decade don't seem to produce much at all, nothing visible or memorable anyway. Long-lasting Twitter problems (culture, spam, algorithm issues) never seem addressed. User growth is stagnating…

> Twitter is a stagnant company. They have thousands of engineers that in the span of a decade don't seem to produce much at all, nothing visible or memorable anyway.

As a Twitter user since 2019, I’ve seen improvements even in my short time on the platform. The most obvious example is that you can now restrict who can reply to your tweets.

You could make the same argument about HN, and it’d be equally mistaken.

How quickly we forget the front end redesign that lets you tweet photos when you quote tweet. The old one didn’t.

Or that they collapse new tweets into a button you can click, rather than interrupting your reading flow when it loads more. (Admittedly the old site already had this.)

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by epolanski »

xiphias2 wrote: post #798
MisterSandman wrote: post #707

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> at the same time if Twitter as a company isn't really doing much, why do they have thousands of developers on staff? ...to keep the app running? New devices, new standards, a lot of things change that you need devs to keep up with. Also, what's up with people saying twitter is stagnant? They've added Spaces, Twitter Blue and Crypto Profile Pictures - all 3 massive features added to their product. They're all trash,…

Spaces is amazing. It was great listening Nayib Bukele, the president of El Salvador talk while they were making history by voting Bitcoin to be adopted as legal tender in the country. He was just looking at his Twitter feed at that time, and was interested in what people are talking about the bill in spaces. I know he's controversial, but I wish more politicians would make themselves more accessible through Twitter…

Yeah, they give lunatics like Nayib a voice, by the way good luck going to el salvador and hope to use bitcoin.

But so does Instagram and Facebook and other socials. Politicians doing live QAs on facebook was happening a decade ago already, since live streams were a thing.

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by sixQuarks »

VerminOctopus1 wrote: post #660
sixQuarks wrote: post #297

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Puh-lease. Bias means tendency to lean a certain way, you can’t have bias in 2 opposite directions. The pro Elon crowd here is a minority. Something I’ll never understand, being that this is an entrepreneurial forum and Elon is the worlds best entrepreneur. Jealousy perhaps?

You could claim jealousy, but that’s reductive. Elon Musk annoys a lot of people, for a plethora of reasons. It’s pretty easy to find wide ranging genuine criticism of him from numerous perspectives, if you want to actually understand. Or you could hand wave it all away and claim jealousy I guess, just know it’s a lazy explanation.

It’s more lazy to claim all the criticisms about him are true. So many of these criticisms are based off of clickbaity headlines. If you actually follow him closely, actually listen to his interviews over time, you will see he is very consistent in his words and actions. There is no doubt in my mind that he aims to do good for humanity as a whole.

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by jrochkind1 »

fleddr wrote: post #678

I think people are really over-analyzing this move. I think it's motivated by prestige, not money, nor is free speech the heart of the matter. Twitter is a stagnant company. They have thousands of engineers that in the span of a decade don't seem to produce much at all, nothing visible or memorable anyway. Long-lasting Twitter problems (culture, spam, algorithm issues) never seem addressed. User growth is stagnating…

Do people on boards of directors get features implemented, is that a thing?

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by randbox »

xiphias2 wrote: post #798
MisterSandman wrote: post #707

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> at the same time if Twitter as a company isn't really doing much, why do they have thousands of developers on staff? ...to keep the app running? New devices, new standards, a lot of things change that you need devs to keep up with. Also, what's up with people saying twitter is stagnant? They've added Spaces, Twitter Blue and Crypto Profile Pictures - all 3 massive features added to their product. They're all trash,…

Spaces is amazing. It was great listening Nayib Bukele, the president of El Salvador talk while they were making history by voting Bitcoin to be adopted as legal tender in the country. He was just looking at his Twitter feed at that time, and was interested in what people are talking about the bill in spaces. I know he's controversial, but I wish more politicians would make themselves more accessible through Twitter…

So it's amazing at miseducating and misinforming politicians in impoverished countries?

In industrial economies money is credit and countries issue their own money by setting up a banking system to lend it into existence on security of domestic tangible capital to promote wealth formation and create liquidity for domestic employers to make payroll. Since the early 1700s western governments have known how to create stable money from nothing without any gold, private banks, or external investors by lending it into existence through land loan office system.

It looks like El Salvador didn't create its own money before and was just using US Dollars sent back by emigrants though.

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by ALittleLight »

paxys wrote: post #794
fleddr wrote: post #678

I think people are really over-analyzing this move. I think it's motivated by prestige, not money, nor is free speech the heart of the matter. Twitter is a stagnant company. They have thousands of engineers that in the span of a decade don't seem to produce much at all, nothing visible or memorable anyway. Long-lasting Twitter problems (culture, spam, algorithm issues) never seem addressed. User growth is stagnating…

He is a board member, not the CEO/COO. He can demand changes, but how will they magically get done?

My intuition is that Twitter's CEO will be looking for big changes to turn Twitter's stock price around. Now his largest shareholder is also a famous entrepreneur with some big ideas.
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