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Re: Reddit files to go public

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Post by Mezzie » Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 2:35 PM UTC

suby wrote: post #790

skinnymuch wrote: post #742

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I believe you and some other HNers are exceptions to the vast norms of how people operate. I didn’t include the bit in my other comment where Discord and Reddit do ban major communities. So portions of those userbases are forced to at least partially leave. We have seen what that has done to both platforms. Nothing. Yes platform death can still happen of course. There are many reasons they haven’t happened. Many reas…

In my opinion reddit banning toxic communities has helped cement their dominance. I've tried to jump ship to sites like Voat early on in their life cycle, but whenever reddit banned racist / toxic communities, the people from those communities would jump ship to the most viable alternative. This caused the new site to take on the character of the banned communities. Voat got to the point where nearly every thread had…

It has, but I think that's on accident on Reddit's part. So far, pretty much everywhere they've banned has been out of the Overton Window enough that the results are what you see. Voat, Saidit, etc. There has been one semi-successful small alternative in Ovarit (in that it's a stable community that slowly gains people), but the radfems set up an invite system + a lot of their beliefs are less 'crazy' + their ideology encourages them to discuss 'normie' things with each other.

There is one other way a new site could succeed, I think: A Reddit competitor with decent search and archive abilities, better mobile/app UX, and (here's the killer) a complete ban on political discussion and brand accounts. Set up a place for people to have groups for hobbies without having to prove their vaxx status (or lack thereof) or whether they like trans people enough. People (regardless of their political persuasion) need breaks, rest, hobby, and connection.

Re: Reddit files to go public

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Post by phkahler » Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 8:06 PM UTC

Trasmatta wrote: post #695

phkahler wrote: post #691

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>> Anecdotally, a VERY LARGE percentage of my Google searches end in “site:reddit.com” these days. That seems strange to me. Most of my search results don't lead there. This seems like something worth investigating on your part. Maybe google knows you like reddit, tend to follow links there, and hence puts them higher in your search rankings? Is that a thing with google? I think it may be based on my own past experie…

I think you misunderstand, OP is purposefully adding "site:reddit.com" to their search query, to only get results from Reddit. Google isn't adding it for them. I do this sometimes too, because it's one of the ways to get actual opinions on something, and not just worthless blog spam.

Oh, that makes sense.

Re: Reddit files to go public

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Post by emodendroket » Sat, Dec 18, 2021, 12:22 AM UTC

mdp2021 wrote: post #811

emodendroket wrote: post #709

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We’re engineers, so “I work on a product that has to handle lots of users” entails pride.

That is only valid in general, outside "real world application" of that idea... Or, in fact, of the very product. Product quality is a component supposed to override the "value for pride" of widespread adoption. You can safely assume that many people will not be proud of participating to a dubious product. You can not even assume that one in general will be especially proud of wide adoption - the weight given to "gen…

OK, well not only does it handle large volumes but it's a beloved site many people spend hours on a day.

Re: Reddit files to go public

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Post by nebula8804 » Sat, Dec 18, 2021, 12:58 AM UTC

nerdponx wrote: post #681

nebula8804 wrote: post #667

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You say that yet even catbox.moe is asking for money. Go check their front page.

But the page isn't covered in user-hostile ads that rely on intensive surveillance and sharing your personal data with dozens of shady companies. Edit: Your comment really bothers me. At no point did I suggest that websites should not ask their users for money. I was wondering about and criticizing their apparently heavy use of user-abusive ads, while still asking users directly for money. Usually on the Web we see o…

I sorry to disturb you. It was not my intent. I just disagree about the seriousness of the ads displayed in your example. An ad for Whisky and/or Walgreens(a pharmacy) don't seem too bad compared to other ads I have seen.

Snopes probably gets a lot of bandwidth (and probably attacks) just due to them being very mainstream.

Re: Reddit files to go public

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Post by nebula8804 » Sat, Dec 18, 2021, 1:01 AM UTC

makeitdouble wrote: post #798

nebula8804 wrote: post #651

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It would be hilarious if this became the next "dropbox" comment. I'm placing my stake here just in case! :)

Interestingly we don't yet have a player coming it with a "we made it cheap and simple" solution. Even Meta's Quest hardware is still not at that point, and the ecosystem is pretty small. I feel like we're not even at the "No wireless. Less space than a Nomad." stage yet.

Good point. There have been attempts by PC manufacturers to make VR headsets. We need a Windows like OS to make this possible I suppose.

Re: Reddit files to go public

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Post by wglb » Sat, Dec 18, 2021, 3:16 AM UTC

cbozeman wrote: post #550

unclekev wrote: post #264

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>I'm glad he's dead - he'd probably kill himself again if he could see what's been done to the site. Not cool. Even as a joke (or whatever that was meant to be)

I don't think it's a joke at all. What's happening - what's been happening there - is an insult to Aaron's memory.

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Re: Reddit files to go public

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Post by wglb » Sat, Dec 18, 2021, 3:17 AM UTC

cbozeman wrote: post #553

rozap wrote: post #212

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you should delete this. i know for a fact at least one of his family members reads this site, and that is an awfully hurtful thing to say.

I never delete anything I post, and I always stand behind what I say. You can't unsay something in a face-to-face interaction, so I don't "unsay" things on the Internet either. > i know for a fact at least one of his family members reads this site, and that is an awfully hurtful thing to say. You interpreted it that way. Period. Offense can never be given, only taken. Aaron was so adamant about the need for free spee…

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Re: Reddit files to go public

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Post by stjohnswarts » Sat, Dec 18, 2021, 7:03 AM UTC

GhettoComputers wrote: post #265

stjohnswarts wrote: post #185

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I don't think a lot Gen Z don't like the old.reddit.com because it looks kind of old fashioned vs say react "modern" pages and they're afraid of lookign old-fashioned. However, that is what keeps me coming back along with relative anonymity and content on topics that I like.

Mobile apps solved that problem. The redesign made desktop problems.

I only use my phone when I have to. If I'm within 20 feet of a computer w/ a monitor I'll go use that. I know it's old fashioned but it is what it is.

Re: Reddit files to go public

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Post by mdp2021 » Sat, Dec 18, 2021, 10:03 AM UTC

emodendroket wrote: post #823

mdp2021 wrote: post #811

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That is only valid in general, outside "real world application" of that idea... Or, in fact, of the very product. Product quality is a component supposed to override the "value for pride" of widespread adoption. You can safely assume that many people will not be proud of participating to a dubious product. You can not even assume that one in general will be especially proud of wide adoption - the weight given to "gen…

OK, well not only does it handle large volumes but it's a beloved site many people spend hours on a day.

When original poster silisili states «people already don't want to admit to working there», said poster uses a gross generalization not using a proper quantifier. That use of «people» entails by default describing at least a median, "over 50% of the developers". That's just exaggerating rhetoric.

Normalizing the expression to «some people already don't want to admit to working there», you get a pretty basic truth, that products change and enthusiasm in the project contributors swings accordingly. That is surely not eliminated by the idea they can hold, "Yes but the product is popular": popularity does not fix projectual lacks, it is not necessarily valid as a consolation. Some will try to steer the culture and encourage fixing the fault, some will be just embarassed.

Some members here are noting that this piece of news about going public may exacerbate some of the faults (i.e. toxic hooking) - some presume that this will put more weight on the idea of maximizing revenues, psychopathically ("Whatever it takes").

In fact, gambling has some people «spend hours on a day», and you cannot suppose that "developers of gambling machines will be proud". And this is very relevant to a number of current social networks. Spending time is not a value - investing time is.

Re: Reddit files to go public

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Post by epistasis » Sat, Dec 18, 2021, 4:19 PM UTC

Nasrudith wrote: post #646

epistasis wrote: post #628

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A land value tax solves this.

A land value tax for names? Or well copyrighted ones. I suppose brand reputation could have a value. It could also lead to companies cycling names for cheapness. Imagine say using Toyota-2022 as the offical name for Toyota. The notion sounds a bit silly on the surface, but good enough at least for serious classroom discussions and evaluation.

Perhaps a land value tax only for dictionary words that relate to the field of use. If Toyota builds a brand reputation, then they should be able to hold on to that brand value without being taxed on it.