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Re: Reddit files to go public

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> now they're trying to get into everything, and can barely execute I feel like this happens to a lot of organizations/products that start off being really neat. Fast forward 10 years, and most/all of the people responsible for the good stuff have moved on. The brand ambles on like a relative with dementia. The lights are on, but you know nobody's home.

Amazon is the only one I know that didn’t.

They built and presently operate a data center at Langley for the CIA.

They started as a bookstore.

Re: Reddit files to go public

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post #781

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Amazon is the only one I know that didn’t.

They built and presently operate a data center at Langley for the CIA. They started as a bookstore.

They started out as a bookstore but Bezos had experience in finance, they quickly sold media, and the warehouses were nothing like other bookstores and it looks like it was more a base for larger operations that didn’t anticipate staying a bookstore, the same way their online functionality didn’t stop at a website, AWS and selling other stuff came fast.

Sure they were a bookstore first but they over engineered it to scale.

Re: Reddit files to go public

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post #633

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Have you joined any company happy hours with 6+ attendees? It inevitably turns into an awkward mess. Sure you can use breakout rooms but the social happy hour via zoom/slack is not a solved problem.

Yesterday at my work they had a Christmas event where normally they hire a speaker to come to (normally in person, but now on a Teams call), and this year they brought in a lady who's a comedian and minor Canadian celebrity. She got through the first 25 minutes or so of her routine (which was incredibly awkward -- standup does not work without a crowd, and it's just you telling jokes to your own empty living room) an…

> standup does not work without a crowd

There's a Zoom comedy show my partner has been attending for 1.5 years, and she bawls every week. So, it's possible for a show to work out.

Re: Reddit files to go public

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post #334

Good! I‘ll go long on them. Reddit is the ONLY place on the Internet where you can simultaneously watch garbage recycled content from TikTok and visit extremely-niche and highly knowledgeable communities in the same session. Heck, I get my HN updates from Reddit now. Facebook/Instagram/TikTok are nothing like this in that the info you get is wholly dependent on your social graph. Twitter has very high quality content…

Genuinely curious...are you old enough to remember Digg and what happened to it? I don't mean that to be patronizing...but I remember being on Digg and Reddit being a weird alternative. And after a series of huge mistakes, almost overnight Reddit was flooded with users and Digg relegated to nothing. It really opened my eyes to how quickly an empire built only on its users can disappear.

I remember Digg being as shitty a useless get-rich-quick non-idea fad as Reddit that I visited a total of 5 times during its lifespan. Both sites pitch link sharing as the most easy to implement possible thing you can do and still have a web 2.0 site; A way to justify the owner of the site being the king - i.e, the guy who gets all the profit from this. This and you can write one line comments on the links. After many revisions, you can now almost have the functionality of an ASCII text editor on these sites. It's a miracle that there is ever any good content on Reddit at all (well, actually it's just Murphy's law). If you are able to have a useful discussion on Reddit, you are literally abusing the platform for something it's not intended for. You get banned for saying anything neutral because the subs are full of circle jerking product consuming lowlifes who downvote you (not unlike the alcohol bar format) and when you get too many downvotes you cannot post anymore, and the UI makes it harder to read downvoted comments.

I don't see how investing in reddit is any different than any ill-designed shitcoin. It's literally just as useless. Unlike Dig, I actually came across reddit posts a total of 3 times in the last 15 years of my software engineering work when I had to look something up.

Web forums in the early 2000s were already a stupid design: You want to discuss a topic? You have to roll your own server and decide what ad-hoc protocol in the form of {phpbb,invpb,...} to use, then "grow" a "community" (aka the suckers who so happen to frequent your forum) and try to sustain it with. Then the mods eventually disagree with people due to human nature and long time users get banned? Literally open any old web forum ever and you will see tons of people with 10K posts that are banned because one day the mod felt like banning them forever. I really hate this stupid fucking community format, as I just want to discuss topics and I don't give 2 shits about who so happens to be the "official community". If I want to talk about my reverse engineering work, I really do not care what some moderators think about the way I talk; I just want to talk about my subject and let anyone who cares join the discussion. If people disagree with me because they don't like my spelling, they should block me one by one, not be decided by a centralized committee. It's amazing how many people have the opposite attitude, it's like they came on the internet thinking it's an extension of some social drama shit like high school.

Now let's look at Freenet: I press the "new forum" button and the topic is up forever as long as there is one person reading messages thus propagating them (at the end of the day any individual can backup whatever he cares about and restore it at a later date, all within the simple protocol) and moderation is done at the user end like it should be, by subscribing to filters. At least that's how i _think_ it works, you can never be sure with these kiddie p2p projects. Freenet is basically a hack around webshit but it gives an example of how things should work and how they could have worked 20 years ago if the US government didn't assassinate Napster and set forth millions of copyright / "CP" panic muppets to get outraged about the imaginary threat posed by data transmission.

Re: Reddit files to go public

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post #92

Reddit is operating on the shakiest house of cards, and their investors are being swindled, along with their advertisers. For one of many examples, they're grossly inflating viewership numbers on Reddit Live by injecting the top broadcast into the front page of 25,000 users every ~30 seconds -- largely against their will[1] or without knowledge[2] -- and then selling those as "video views" to record labels, Adobe, Le…

The mods have really taken over. If you post this link on reddit you will be banned immediately. If you file an appeal it will be denied on the spot.

https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/theres-another-abusive-...

I wonder how investors will react to having horrible people moderating their investment.

Re: Reddit files to go public

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post #660

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My personal last strands of hope for Reddit are - their API which is still available to public without hoops to jump through. The downvote button. And the usabillity of old.reddit. Some communities that are still well moderated and strikes a good balance between open to questions and not open to stupid questions. Beyond that I stopped using mainstream reddit as a value source.

Are you sure you don't want to veer into /r/popular. /r/Askwomen: What are 100% effective ways at turning you on? /r/Teenagers: Every1 who wears their PJs to bed, I'll tell you your favourite band. /r/ >: I HAVE A CAT, NAME IT FOR ME. /r/NoStupidQuestions: If a woman shakes my hand is that code for sex? /r/Askmen: What's your one perfect way to get a girlfriend? /r/Pics: Here's 10,000 photos of people being gross on…

There’s a lot of kids and teens on Reddit. I’m glad I was a teen on the Internet in the walled garden of AOL, so all the dumb and hormone-driven things I said there are probably lost on a hard drive in a landfill somewhere.

Re: Reddit files to go public

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They messed up when they made sub-reddits. Sub-reddits are a harmful combination of community and content. Popular content becomes a huge community, and all of the issues based on Dunbar's number happen as a result, which includes abuse of powers from the admins. Instead of using sub-reddits for content you should have tags. Communities should never be bigger than 150 people, and should not be limited to a single ide…

This is a bad take. You are asking for the forum and sub forum/tag approach. A community that small will simply not be engaged with frequently enough to avoid seeming “abandoned”. This is exactly the set of circumstances that led to content aggregation sites like Reddit.

Sub-forums are a usability nightmare, but reddit already solved the sub-forum issue. You would be showed content in a flattened manner, but in the hierarchy where the closest to you is shown first.

Re: Reddit files to go public

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post #786
post #660

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Are you sure you don't want to veer into /r/popular. /r/Askwomen: What are 100% effective ways at turning you on? /r/Teenagers: Every1 who wears their PJs to bed, I'll tell you your favourite band. /r/ >: I HAVE A CAT, NAME IT FOR ME. /r/NoStupidQuestions: If a woman shakes my hand is that code for sex? /r/Askmen: What's your one perfect way to get a girlfriend? /r/Pics: Here's 10,000 photos of people being gross on…

There’s a lot of kids and teens on Reddit. I’m glad I was a teen on the Internet in the walled garden of AOL, so all the dumb and hormone-driven things I said there are probably lost on a hard drive in a landfill somewhere.

I'm glad to be part of the pre-internet generation where the limit to our cringe is a fleeting feeling of embarrassment while hazily remembering it, rather than having it played back in high definition at some inopportune moment.

Re: Reddit files to go public

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post #786

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There’s a lot of kids and teens on Reddit. I’m glad I was a teen on the Internet in the walled garden of AOL, so all the dumb and hormone-driven things I said there are probably lost on a hard drive in a landfill somewhere.

I'm glad to be part of the pre-internet generation where the limit to our cringe is a fleeting feeling of embarrassment while hazily remembering it, rather than having it played back in high definition at some inopportune moment.

I think as adults we should be able to recognize that we all went through this and look at it with a little compassion and understanding instead of holding it up for ridicule. As you say, people will feel embarrassed about it enough in the future.

Re: Reddit files to go public

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post #699

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I think you're missing something important in this analysis: Awareness of the cycle and outside interference. I'm one of the first people to bail when a platform or service becomes unusable and a new one becomes viable. I have zero loyalty: I started out in Usenet servers and with individual webpages and moved through to blogs/forums, then to Myspace and LiveJournal, and so on. (Including the Digg to Reddit migration…

I believe you and some other HNers are exceptions to the vast norms of how people operate. I didn’t include the bit in my other comment where Discord and Reddit do ban major communities. So portions of those userbases are forced to at least partially leave. We have seen what that has done to both platforms. Nothing. Yes platform death can still happen of course. There are many reasons they haven’t happened. Many reas…

In my opinion reddit banning toxic communities has helped cement their dominance. I've tried to jump ship to sites like Voat early on in their life cycle, but whenever reddit banned racist / toxic communities, the people from those communities would jump ship to the most viable alternative. This caused the new site to take on the character of the banned communities. Voat got to the point where nearly every thread had someone lobbing derogatory terms at jews / black people.

I think if a new site is to succeed, it needs to have a heavy hand with moderation.

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