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Thing is there is thin line between moderation/regulation and censorship.

The line is rather stark. eBay choosing not to facilitate the sale of books containing racist caricatures is not in the same ballpark as a government suppressing ideas. It’s not even the same sport.

The government is a permeable membrane. There is nothing that stops these people from moving into government positions.

Re: Dr. Seuss books deemed offensive will be delisted from eBay

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There's two kinds of freedom: freedom from and freedom to. These are some children's books that contain illustrations that some people find offensive and the publisher (and sellers) are deciding they no longer want to be associated with and sell to children. There are internet forums where the images are available and people can view them without the police knocking your door down, and I'm sure these are available in…

> and I'm sure these are available in 2nd hand bookshops What do you think eBay is?

Other 2nd hand bookshops...

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Am I not alone in thinking this Neo-puritanism is going too far?

Youre absolutely not alone. Im reaching a breaking point where I would not care how society treats Im bot going to let the new puritans take over.

You're not the only one. People are started to organise against this poison - in fact I read just yesterday about the launch of one new organisation to push back: https://www.fairforall.org/

There's strength in numbers. We must speak up.

Re: Dr. Seuss books deemed offensive will be delisted from eBay

#825
I saw a previous comment mention why not ban all his books if you are going to ban a subset. I dont know if they were trying to force the argument down the slippery slope to its logical conclusion to illucidate its irrationality, but this is exactly how we end up in Farenheit 451.

Re: Dr. Seuss books deemed offensive will be delisted from eBay

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The company I work for did something similar at the end of last year. We had consultants who went over everything, and made a massive document of all sorts of things they deemed "problematic". Along with a week long of seminars/training/workshops on sensitivity/inclusion/etc. - Everyone had to list what pronouns they wanted people to use. In slack / our email footers everything. This was not optional. We were also to…

These 'consultants' probably get paid more than me for doing busywork of no use whatsoever.

That's the whole point. It's a billion-dollar industry created by useless people with no real economic value. They need to inject racism and sexism and division into every situation so they can claim credit for opposing it. How else are they going to justify their bloated paycheques?

Re: Dr. Seuss books deemed offensive will be delisted from eBay

#827

As dis-heartening as this story is, compared to a couple of years ago, it is encouraging to see lots of comments from people beginning to wake up to what is going on with this craziness and not being modded here. Free speech is about protecting the right of the un-popular and views that some may find utterly repugnant. Why? because, as we are seeing with all of the woke craziness, when you don't stand up for everyone…

every one has free speech, someone else's publishing platform is not part of that

“Everyone has the right to a night’s sleep, but homeless sleeping on the doorstep of a bank is not part of that.” This attitude falls apart at scale because the big picture is made entirely of smaller pictures.

Re: Dr. Seuss books deemed offensive will be delisted from eBay

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Wars over, the ultra-left won via social network and Internet. They will ban more stuff. You ever heard of good people banning books and banning words? It is mostly dictators doing that.

> You ever heard of good people banning books and banning words? A majority of developed democracies have laws that restrict hate speech, including Australia, Canada, Denmark, France, Germany, India, South Africa, Sweden, New Zealand, and the United Kingdom. That said, I disagree with what eBay is doing.

But the ever-present question is "who defines hate speech?" Most people's definition of the term seems to be "speech that I hate."

This won't end well.

Re: Dr. Seuss books deemed offensive will be delisted from eBay

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The “weapon” here is just basic conscientiousness. A publisher decided to stop publishing some books because they denigrate people, and eBay decided that they did not want to be facilitating the sale of books that denigrate people. We are not talking about an H-bomb - there is no power structure wielding a “cancel button” here.

Using the word "denigrate" would be a reason to cancel you for some very conscientious minds. It sounds too similar to, ya know. And you aren't even talking Chinese [1] [1] https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2020/09/08/professor-sus...

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