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Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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post #527

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> But they insisted. E.g hijack brosser native controls. [Rant-Example] The goshdarn ticketing-system hijacks alt-f, so that instead of opening the F ile menu of my browser, and instead toggles the favorite-status of whatever ticket I happen to be viewing.

Have you tried creating a ticket complaining about this?

I did, and they probably don't care because they want everyone to use the electron app instead.

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

#812
post #673

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Some time ago my then project owner remarked that possibly in the future apps won't require an UI and people will just interrogate the LLM directly. I read that as a sign to make a coordinated exit. Truth be told our project was one of many "catalogue of stuff" kind of apps which at this and projected scale could have well been a spreadsheet in the cloud with search enhanced by LLM.

The idea of having a non-crap Siri on my phone that I could interrogate directly would be amazing. My ADHD brain would love to do this stuff: "Hey AI, how much is my electric bill this month?" and "Okay thats high. Pay it but remind me next week to order a new AC after researching options for me."

I'm waiting for diffusion language models to mature and go mainstream.

They're still as heavy as language models usually are, but the promise is that they'll arrive at the final result much faster.

Also it looks cool how it shifts words in place until it arrives at an answer.

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

#813
post #133

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It's a complete takeover of technically incompetent management that feels like it can finally execute their ideas to the fullest instead of relying on those pesky swengs with their obstructions, complaints and problems. We'll soon get the management utopia everywhere.

Principal engineer balks at bad UX when the PM should know better (it's their job) 2023: Ah well I guess we can't do it 2025: you're fired. Hey kid we hired two weeks ago, implement bad idea please

Implement bad idea, but use AI. That's the MO right now.

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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post #673

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Some time ago my then project owner remarked that possibly in the future apps won't require an UI and people will just interrogate the LLM directly. I read that as a sign to make a coordinated exit. Truth be told our project was one of many "catalogue of stuff" kind of apps which at this and projected scale could have well been a spreadsheet in the cloud with search enhanced by LLM.

> Some time ago my then project owner remarked that possibly in the future apps won't require an UI and people will just interrogate the LLM directly. And those LLMs will run on unicorn farts and world hunger will be solved too. Do people lack basic logic or is it just when it comes to LLMs?

In his defense, the guy is a biologist - he couldn't have known.

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

#816
post #188

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To be fair, it was already done by bad managers long before.

This is what I sees getting missed in a lot of LLM conversations. They're amplifiers. Full stop. If you have good practices they supercharge them, if you had bad practices, same thing.

Does our society generally have good, user-friendly practices?

What will amplifying its output do?

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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The torment nexus was built by engineers. Not management. It couldn't exist without engineers.

> The torment nexus was built by engineers. Not management. Before the more recent wave of successful tech startups (say, from 2010 on), a very large amount of programmers were incredibly sensitive to anything related to topics like (posisbility of) surveillance, privacy, authorities (including government), centralized infrastructures, DRM etc. In my feeling, the only reason why this mindset shifted is because from t…

The interesting thing is despite all that money the basic functionality of tech except for llms has hardly changed for at least a decade if not more. The reason llms are showered with money is everything else is stagnant.

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

#819

One fascinating thing about the whole AI phenomenon is how incredibly hostile it is to _standards_. Whether something works properly, or is ethical, or is true, no longer matters at all; all that matters is "pls use our AI". Microsoft spent literal decades rehabilitating their reputation. And then set fire to the whole thing in an offering to their robot gods. And it's not just them. There was a time that Google care…

What use is a reputation if you don’t spend it now and then? If this lets Microsoft cut some divisional headcounts by 95%, certainly their enterprise customers are onboard with naked greed and don’t care about how it looks either — and us individuals aren’t relevant to MS, so why would maintaining our good perception of them matter at all?

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

#820
post #665

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Fair point. We did catch it internally in testing (as we use VS Code for all our work, so some folks did stumble on it), but I think we underestimated the impact and should do a better job at that.

This is honestly the most concerning part of all of this. You're saying you knew that this exact bug was present up front and still decided to release it? This basically invalidates the entire premise that it was an innocent mistake. It's impossible for me to believe that you actually thought that people wouldn't care about 100% of their commits being attributed to Copilot even when it was never used. Either you're m…

don't call it a bug, they were intentionally aggressively pushing marketing copy into people's commits.

this was malice or greed

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