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Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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Re: Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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Post by throw__away7391 »

thatfrenchguy wrote: post #610
curiousllama wrote: post #481

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Cities' attractiveness feels u-shaped Young adults love it bc they have the time to go to bars/restaurants/clubs Middle aged folks hate it because they're so busy - they can't take advantage, and other people get in their way (some) Older folks like it again bc they have the time to go to restaurants/theater

I don't know, the residential neighborhoods of SF are the perfect place to raise a family if you make tech money: dense enough that there is a ton of stuff to do and your kid knows other kid nearby, low density enough that you get 1500-2500sqft to yourself.

> if you make tech money

It is a great tragedy that the US with all its money and diversity of geography and people has only really managed to produce a single walkable city and a scattered handful of “I don’t always use my car” neighborhoods, which are always the most expensive places to live. So many cities outside the US manage to do this on a fraction of the budget.

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Post by matrix87 »

ionwake wrote: post #80

As a UK chap, can someone give me their opinion on if San Jose is a more pleasant place to live than San Fran these days?

Relevant quote:

> They say San José is going to become another Los Angeles. Believe me, I'm going to do everything in my power to make that come true. [0]

In SJ, you usually have a car door separating the homeless from you. Seems like SJ is more car-oriented in design; driving in SF is really awful and if I lived there I'd avoid it

If I had to summarize: SJ -> boring, lots of jobs with great variety, easier to avoid riffraff; SF -> cooler (in character and temperature), grittier, more loud politically

Personally, if I could get a cushy corporate job in SF I'd just live there. But it seems like that's becoming harder

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Jose,_California#History

Re: Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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Post by valval »

KerrAvon wrote: post #645
serial_dev wrote: post #597

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Well, even if I subscribe to "every company under Elon's management is a shit show" (and I do), and I don't idolize him (I really don't), if I lived anywhere close and were in my 20s, I would consider joining for a year or two just for the lulz. Twitter is still insanely influential, so it would be fun to be behind the scenes. I also suspect that software engineers can still learn a lot there.

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Re: Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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Post by morepork »

jen20 wrote: post #594
SoftTalker wrote: post #450

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Are they upgrading the tracks as well? Diesel trains can run at 80mph no problem, which is about the maximum any standard US railroad supports. If the track is built to high speed standards you could go faster.

The track has a lot of at-grade intersections with roads running through the mid-peninsula - it seems unlikely they'll be running trains at 80mph.

The plan is to run the high speed rail along the same tracks at reduced speed, so if that doesn't get cancelled they'll eventually remove all those

Re: Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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Post by morepork »

thr0w wrote: post #174
zknill wrote: post #51

I don't know US commutes, or US geography too well. But it seems these two locations are about 45mins-1hr drive from each other. Where do folks actually live in those areas? Is it that a 30min drive north to San Fran becomes a 30min drive south to San Jose?

I'm imagining hordes of 20-something engineers living in the Mission with a 15 minute flat bicycle commute to the X office now having to grapple with getting to San Jose. Probably pretty rough news for a decent amount of people.

You mean they won't switch to a 3-4 hour, mostly flat, 50 mile bike ride?

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Post by _lyxd »

bobthepanda wrote: post #686
lazide wrote: post #662

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SF schools and traffic are terrible with kids. Suburbs are generally much mellower.

I mean this depends on what specifically you’re optimizing for. A child in the suburb will need a chauffeur to get anywhere outside their immediate subdivision, and sometimes within it. Children are perfectly capable of taking public transit and using their two feet, though.

no, as a kid I was able to go anywhere I desired with a bike or skateboard; I had few boring summer days.

this is much safer/practical in suburban environments. do you really believe public transport, in SF, is as safe for a kid?

e: md fix

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Post by n_ary »

hintymad wrote: post #412

There is a famous paper about the location of company headquarters: they get as close as possible to the residence of company CEOs. If we don't consider the CEO's influence, I'm actually curious if the location of company headquarters has to do with the average age of the employees in the Bay Area. As the employees start to have families, they most likely move to the south bay for better or for worse, and I have a ha…

Your ideal suburb describes most of the Europe(excluding few cities).

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Post by toast0 »

darby_nine wrote: post #780
drawnwren wrote: post #778

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I’d be willing to be good money you couldn’t take the bus out of the old X headquarters at 11pm for a month straight and not get robbed at least once. I got robbed twice in the 3 months I worked in the TL.

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Survival skills are nice to have. But it's even nicer to live and work in a location where robbery isn't something that someone might reasonably experience twice in 3 months.

Of course, I left a job when my lunch got stolen twice in 3 months; well 3 times, but one time I brought leftover pizza in a pizza box, that's understandable. Taking leftovers in plastic is just rude... especially when my shift started at 4pm and everyone else was working normal hours, other than the overnight person whose shift started when mine left.

If I had been robbed because of the location of my job, I'd probably show up one more time, to return my stuff (assuming it wasn't stolen when I was robbed).

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Post by hamandcheese »

tayo42 wrote: post #558
Diederich wrote: post #525

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I rode by their office in SF daily in 2015-2018 and even back then it was pretty rough. I've heard things have gotten only more difficult since.

I interviewed there around then, I remeber getting off at civic center bart station on my way in wondering to my self if I really want to do this commute everyday and what kind if effect it would have on me. Then I got the offer and was like, I'll figure it out hah. Sketchy mornings watching all the drug dealing happening hoping I wouldn't accidently look at the wrong person the wrong way or something.

Isn't van ness station closer to Twitter?
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