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Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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Post by throwawayq3423 »

heylook wrote: post #677
throwawayq3423 wrote: post #643

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Correct me if i'm wrong but that's haight ashbury right? The famous magnet for druggies and general sh*theads? Why is this being help up as an example of a safe place?

I think you either replied to the wrong comment or are maybe confused. Telegraph Hill is quite far from Haight Ashbury (as much as anything can be far apart in a 7x7 mile city).

You are right I got confused, but Telegraph Hill still was known for beatniks etc. And today it's close to the embarcadero which is ... well bad.

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Post by darby_nine »

seizethecheese wrote: post #399
janalsncm wrote: post #371

Had a recruiter call with Twitter a few months ago. Mandatory in office 5 days per week. Among other things, an hour commute both ways to work was not acceptable. Maybe they will have better luck in Santa Clara. I don’t buy any of the flamebait reasons for leaving SF. Reason 1 is money and reason 2 is talent pool.

I’ve had several meetings, either in Twitter office or around it, and the street scene is very bad in that part of SF. If the claim is that this is a motivation for the move, it certainly passes the sniff test for me.

I'd far prefer to live in the tenderloin than south bay. People make it out to be far scarier than it is.

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Post by darby_nine »

latentcall wrote: post #516
acedTrex wrote: post #501

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Agree but it appears a sizeable amount of young men see themselves in him somehow and therefore idolize him. As long as he has that cult of personality, people will gladly accept the abuse for a chance to be near him.

That can't be a very useful employee.

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Post by spiderice »

MSFT_Edging wrote: post #440
smsm42 wrote: post #401

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If by "everywhere" you mean "major megapolises with crime problems", then yes, everywhere. Otherwise, no, not everywhere, and yes, in a suburban location a chance of a shooting happening under your very office window is extremely low. Living/working in a megapolis has its advantages, but let's not paint over its downsides also. Criminals want the same advantages too.

Cities tend to have a lower per-capita crime rate, it's just dense and visible. This is just suburban paranoia. Crime happens.

According to who? Do you have a source?

Top violent crime rate per capita US cities [1]:

1. St. Louis 2. Detroit 3. Baltimore 4. Memphis 5. Kansas City

If we include all crime and not just violent crime, it’s still all large cities at the top. Not sure where you’re getting your info.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities...

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Post by sneak »

smsm42 wrote: post #589
bastardoperator wrote: post #443

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So you've been able to gauge life and the street scene in SF based on several meetings? That's super interesting. I would argue the Embarcadero is fairly nice and I live here, but what do I know.

SF has had some cleaner parts - including north parts of Embarcadero, Presidio, etc. but the center and Market St. areas can be pretty scary to a person who's not used to it. As a large ugly dude, I didn't really feel _that_ threatened there, even if a bit uneasy, but I can only imagine how, for example, a woman would feel navigating it, especially at later hours...

Statistically speaking, women are almost never physically attacked by strangers, it is almost always someone they know.

Men are attacked by strangers at a much much higher rate than women are.

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Post by drawnwren »

darby_nine wrote: post #773
seizethecheese wrote: post #399

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I’ve had several meetings, either in Twitter office or around it, and the street scene is very bad in that part of SF. If the claim is that this is a motivation for the move, it certainly passes the sniff test for me.

I'd far prefer to live in the tenderloin than south bay. People make it out to be far scarier than it is.

I’d be willing to be good money you couldn’t take the bus out of the old X headquarters at 11pm for a month straight and not get robbed at least once. I got robbed twice in the 3 months I worked in the TL.

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Post by metabagel »

015a wrote: post #423
autoexecbat wrote: post #396

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It ultimately doesn't matter what a company wants to call themselves if the vast public just uses the old name

I mean, it does matter, and also HackerNews is the only bubble I interact with regularly that still holds on to the Twitter name like gollum and the one ring. My understanding is that HN has rules against editorialization of headlines. This absolutely qualifies. The company is called X, the article calls it X. You don't have to like it, you don't have to use that name when you speak about the company, but editorializ…

"X" feels (to me) much more ambiguous than "Twitter".

If you say "Twitter", people know what you're talking about. If you say "X", are you talking about "X" marks the spot? Rated "X"? "X" the former project name for Paypal? "X" as in an unknown quantity? "X" is used in a lot of different contexts. I think if you want to use the name "X", then you should probably say "The company, X,".

Twitter is a verb, but when you use it as a noun, the listener instantly knows that you are talking about the company "Twitter". Plus, it's the name we are all familiar with.

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Post by darby_nine »

drawnwren wrote: post #778
darby_nine wrote: post #773

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I'd far prefer to live in the tenderloin than south bay. People make it out to be far scarier than it is.

I’d be willing to be good money you couldn’t take the bus out of the old X headquarters at 11pm for a month straight and not get robbed at least once. I got robbed twice in the 3 months I worked in the TL.

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