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Re: US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

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Post by incomingpain »

josefresco wrote: post #231
incomingpain wrote: post #45

Here in Canada, it has been rather eye opening the extent of cannabis use. There are more cannabis shops then mcdonalds. You can grow your own and most people do. There's online options. A society which criminalizes something so popular and widely used; will ultimately fail at their prohibition. The next step for society would be to attempt at changing opinion, but what are the unintended consequences? The answer is,…

I visited Montreal last year and finding a recreation cannabis shop was not easy. Google maps is filled with "head shops" that don't sell weed, and apparently at some point all shops became nationalized (correct me if I'm wrong) which means there were private shops in existence but then shut down further polluting online listings. I eventually figured this out (after visiting what I thought was a cannabis shop that w…

>I visited Montreal last year and finding a recreation cannabis shop was not easy. Google maps is filled with "head shops" that don't sell weed, and apparently at some point all shops became nationalized (correct me if I'm wrong)

Quebec is an oddball, they did provincially run them. They are quite available still, search 'cannabis' in google/apple maps and they'll be available.

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Post by incomingpain »

guyzero wrote: post #50
incomingpain wrote: post #45

Here in Canada, it has been rather eye opening the extent of cannabis use. There are more cannabis shops then mcdonalds. You can grow your own and most people do. There's online options. A society which criminalizes something so popular and widely used; will ultimately fail at their prohibition. The next step for society would be to attempt at changing opinion, but what are the unintended consequences? The answer is,…

But there's as many shuttered pot shops in Toronto as there are open ones. I think the industry is still shaking out and there's a lot of volatility.

>But there's as many shuttered pot shops in Toronto as there are open ones. I think the industry is still shaking out and there's a lot of volatility.

That's fair as well. Being invested in cannabis is a whole other beast.

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Post by Reubachi »

BenFranklin100 wrote: post #551
bdhess wrote: post #548

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Stinky is very qualitative. Maybe you grew up around tobacco smokers and so don’t mind the smell? I hate it. Quantitatively, marijuana smoke is less carcinogenic than tobacco smoke.

The smell from marijuana smoke lingers and travels in a way tobacco smoke does not. Most people other than users find it significantly more offensive than tobacco.

Any burning organics will be different sample to sample, and any "smell" judgement of such will be subjective.

Almost objectively, we all have anecdotal memories of being overwhelmed by tobacco residue in a car, room, clothing etc.

^ Not like "someone just smoked a cigarette in here, yuck" but more like "this room is destroyed from 20 years of tobacco smoke, we can't sell this".

I would suspect that very very few people have ever sat in a car and said "someone has smoked cannabis in here for years, it's destroyed."

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Post by BenFranklin100 »

Reubachi wrote: post #813
BenFranklin100 wrote: post #551

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The smell from marijuana smoke lingers and travels in a way tobacco smoke does not. Most people other than users find it significantly more offensive than tobacco.

Any burning organics will be different sample to sample, and any "smell" judgement of such will be subjective. Almost objectively, we all have anecdotal memories of being overwhelmed by tobacco residue in a car, room, clothing etc. ^ Not like "someone just smoked a cigarette in here, yuck" but more like "this room is destroyed from 20 years of tobacco smoke, we can't sell this". I would suspect that very very few peo…

I don’t care about a car or home destroyed by tobacco use. Those are easy for me to avoid. Sitting on my porch and nightly taking in the smell of weed from a neighbor 50 feet away is a different story. That doesn’t happen with tobacco smoke. The smell of marijuana travels in a way tobacco doesn’t.

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Post by mattmaroon »

bamboozled wrote: post #611
BenFranklin100 wrote: post #571

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What does this have to do with how the respective smells linger?

It's less offensive of an order as the complete shit that's in cigarettes and it also doesn't stick to your clothing and linger in the same way.

Subjective but I feel like it is less harsh on my lungs secondhand too

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Post by mattmaroon »

flawsofar wrote: post #798
mattmaroon wrote: post #776

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What it meant was, if you work at a place with all the cash controls of a casino, you have to be stoned to steal petty cash from them. You’re going to get caught, and you’re going to get a felony over a small amount of money. Nobody sober does that. It was not meant as “all stoners are thieves” but as “you’d have to be high to think that’s a good idea”. And since nearly everyone who works at a dispensary is high all…

This is like a tour of logical fallacies. How about some data?

I don’t think there is much data to be had, at least public. But I can tell you in the 5 years my brother has been there, they have had zero armed robbery attempts, and several employee theft attempts. And a quick Google about whether dispensaries get robbed frequently will show you people from the industry saying the same thing.

But no, no data, only anecdotes. Still, I feel like only somebody who has never been in a dispensary would think they are attractive robbery target. I’ve been in them and maybe 10 states, and they are all pretty tight Security, because they know they have a lot of cash and people would like to steal it.

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Post by cryptonector »

Auracle wrote: post #668
cryptonector wrote: post #287

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Under Wickard even all-in-state marijuana trade would still fall under the Interstate Commerce clause and be subject to federal criminal statutes, regulations, and taxes.

My one big Supreme Court wish is that Wickard gets shot down. I could actually see it happen with the current court.

Wickard does seem pretty gross.

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Post by HeatrayEnjoyer »

pwillia7 wrote: post #77
HeatrayEnjoyer wrote: post #29

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US is only lenient when compared to even more severe steamrollers of human rights. Executing individuals for drug possession is absolutely unconsciousable and unacceptable. Incarceration being less diabolical does not mean it is not still highly diabolical. Countless lives were and continue to be destroyed.

The state killing people is always unjustified since you can't prove 99%+ really did the crime. In fact, we can show the states and feds have put to death many of their own innocent citizens.

Hard agree.

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Post by HeatrayEnjoyer »

akira2501 wrote: post #54
HeatrayEnjoyer wrote: post #29

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US is only lenient when compared to even more severe steamrollers of human rights. Executing individuals for drug possession is absolutely unconsciousable and unacceptable. Incarceration being less diabolical does not mean it is not still highly diabolical. Countless lives were and continue to be destroyed.

Selling hard drugs for a profit is diabolical. It also ruins lives.

That is not what we are talking about and you know it.

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Post by BobaFloutist »

lambdaba wrote: post #572
babyshake wrote: post #532

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"Also the idea of stoned people driving cars sounds scary. " Depends how stoned, but people routinely drive while using medication that affects them far more than being a bit stoned.

In response to uninformed sibling comments reflexively fearing cannabis use in drivers, see here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2722956/ > Cannabis users perceive their driving under the influence as impaired and more cautious, and given a dose of 7 mg THC (about a third of a joint), drivers rated themselves as impaired even though their driving performance was not; in contrast, at a BAC 0.04% (slightl…

Everything I've seen suggests that weed mimics or even exacerbates ADHD symptoms, where are you getting that it improves them?
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