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Re: US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

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Post by BenFranklin100 »

bdhess wrote: post #548
xeonmc wrote: post #535

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The biggest problem is not the self-harm aspect but rather the social ramifications. Regulations and social expectations of where you can smoke should be as-strict as tobacco smoking, if not more since weed is just so much more stinky.

Stinky is very qualitative. Maybe you grew up around tobacco smokers and so don’t mind the smell? I hate it. Quantitatively, marijuana smoke is less carcinogenic than tobacco smoke.

The smell from marijuana smoke lingers and travels in a way tobacco smoke does not. Most people other than users find it significantly more offensive than tobacco.

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Post by [deleted] »

flawsofar wrote: post #381
mattmaroon wrote: post #367

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My brother supervises at a dispensary. They are not attractive robbery targets at all. They have a lot of security. Like a bank, they expect the amount of cash would bring trouble if they were not prepared. Unlike a bank, they don't dispense much cash (just petty change) so they don't even have to leave much in the drawers, which are emptied frequently and dropped into a safe nobody there can access. They have cash-h…

> you can imagine who works at them This is disgracefully elitist. White collar crime hurts more people.

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Re: US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

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Post by lambdaba »

vips7L wrote: post #412
lambdaba wrote: post #255

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We don't live in libertarian utopia, let's first focus on substances that are *obviously* misclassified, the ones cited before have actual benefits, the most obvious one being psilocybin.

Do they need to have benefits? Whether they are beneficial or not people are using drugs like MDMA. Making them illegal has only caused harm.

I'm just saying it's an easier sell, if we legalize these the demand for harmful drugs will go down too.

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Post by BenFranklin100 »

There’s been no strong studies on the harmful effects of weed due to its illegal status. Now that is legal in many places, in 30 years we will know a lot more as this natural experiment unfolds. I would not be surprised if we see different but equally harmful effects.

Let the experiment begin.

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Post by jazzyjackson »

0xDEADFED5 wrote: post #547
babyshake wrote: post #532

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"Also the idea of stoned people driving cars sounds scary. " Depends how stoned, but people routinely drive while using medication that affects them far more than being a bit stoned.

i think driving is probably already dangerous enough without adding cannabis or any other psychoactive into the mix

well then i hope you lobby your representatives for bike lanes and public transit because america is a highly medicated place

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Post by jpsouth »

babyshake wrote: post #532
qwerty456127 wrote: post #530

Great news. A very sound move. Indeed, marijuana is much less dangerous of a drug yet considerably harmful in cases of chronic use in unreasonably high doses therefore should be controlled some way. What seems problematic nowadays is teenagers smoking too much. Also the idea of stoned people driving cars sounds scary. To me it seems it should be as available and legal as alcohol and cigarettes are, no less, no more.…

"Also the idea of stoned people driving cars sounds scary. " Depends how stoned, but people routinely drive while using medication that affects them far more than being a bit stoned.

I think that also sounds pretty scary. Seeing the state of drivers in the UK, without knowing what they’re under the influence of, if anything, it’s a pretty damning sight.

There is probably some form of bias here, as I don’t remember all of the good drivers, but not a day goes by where I don’t see drivers wandering into other lanes, performing dangerous undertakes, lane changes, or generally being terrible drivers, and you have to wonder why.

A lot of phone drivers, for sure, a lot of ignorant pricks too, but I’d bet on a lot of inebriated drivers given their conduct.

Example of a shocker I had today, I was turning right out of a resi street, a car with no indication stopped to let me out on my right, but it wasn’t safe (very tight, little visibility) so I waved him along. I stayed there for appx 30 seconds until I realised he wanted to turn into the street I was pulling out of. He didn’t indicate once. Just a completely wild disregard for any form of road etiquette, not to mention the Highway Code.

I’ll report it from my dashcam, but I doubt anything will be done by my local police force.

I think we need far more stringent fines and forced retests (along with removal of licence if they can’t meet the standard of a learner) for anyone committing a road traffic offence or blatantly breaching the Highway Code out of sheer ignorance.

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Post by mattmaroon »

flawsofar wrote: post #542
mattmaroon wrote: post #513

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I see why you would say that, but you probably have not met very many people who work at a dispensary, I have. My brother got promoted to supervisor in a month for the simple reason that he is the only person who could wait until after work to get high. He’s told me quite a bit of what goes on there, and I am sure different dispensaries are different, but in any state where it is relatively recently legalized and the…

I as a customer an hour ago had a long conversation with a friend I made behind the counter. Some software engineers do partake of the weed. So yeah I’ve met them. Tattoos, piercings? They’re just people. Getting high isn’t a sign of larceny

I didn’t say it was. I just said employee theft is a bigger problem than robbery.

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Post by int_19h »

hollerith wrote: post #505
int_19h wrote: post #482

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I bet that CBD will be covered very quickly, because it really does work very well for so many things, so it shouldn't take long to have enough studies clearly in support of it.

Are there strains of marijuana high in CBD but almost absent of THC?

I'm not sure exactly how this works, but you can get CBD as pills with no THC in them.

(Although anecdotally the best results are obtained from taking mostly CBD with a tiny bit of THC; it appears that the latter does something that makes the former's effect more potent. So you see stuff like e.g. 20:1 CBD:THC pills around - can't get high on that, but very effective at pain management. However pure CBD pills are still more common.)

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Post by jpsouth »

wallaBBB wrote: post #370
jcims wrote: post #236

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Every fan of physics is recommended to look up bollard test videos.

And one of the best Twitter accounts: https://twitter.com/WorldBollard

‘I don’t even think it was my fault!’

Well the static, bright yellow pole didn’t waltz into the side of your car now, did it?

People are so ignorant it’s actually unbelievable.

https://x.com/WorldBollard/status/1781394728899993984

Edit: reminds me of my neighbour who dropped his motorbike because a car pulled out on him from a fuel station. I asked how fast he was going, he said with absolute conviction he was doing no more than 5mph.

When I told him that was too fast he couldn’t wrap his head around it.

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Post by mattmaroon »

babyshake wrote: post #532
qwerty456127 wrote: post #530

Great news. A very sound move. Indeed, marijuana is much less dangerous of a drug yet considerably harmful in cases of chronic use in unreasonably high doses therefore should be controlled some way. What seems problematic nowadays is teenagers smoking too much. Also the idea of stoned people driving cars sounds scary. To me it seems it should be as available and legal as alcohol and cigarettes are, no less, no more.…

"Also the idea of stoned people driving cars sounds scary. " Depends how stoned, but people routinely drive while using medication that affects them far more than being a bit stoned.

Both of the above are illegal, though very hard to enforce.
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