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Apple terminates Epic Games developer account, calling it a 'threat' to iOS

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Re: Apple terminates Epic Games developer account, calling it a 'threat' to iOS

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Post by MR4D »

RandallBrown wrote: post #618
MR4D wrote: post #97

Maybe Epic should just come out with their own Android-based phone and ignore Apple. EDIT - I don’t mean this flippantly. I really think a gaming phone made by Epic would be fantastic. They have some great games that I enjoy, including Rocket League and Fortnite. Would love to see what they could do with a phone, especially how well they did on GM’s Hummer ( https://www.theverge.com/2020/10/7/21506572/epic-games-unre…

If Microsoft would have called their Windows Phone the Xbox Phone and focused it on gaming, I think they would have been way more successful.

I think they still could. . . And still might.

I have to think that somewhere in a lab they have an android device with all the Google bits removed. I truly believe that Edge is a test run for this, and given how successful it has become, they will press further.

Embrace & extend never dies.

Re: Apple terminates Epic Games developer account, calling it a 'threat' to iOS

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Post by sangnoir »

Despegar wrote: post #57

Epic perhaps thought Apple might show them grace after the lawsuit in the US. A kind of repeat of the Apple-Samsung litigation where everyone has a "it's just business" attitude and keeps doing business together while simultaneously suing each other. Apple on the other hand has decided they will show them no quarter. I don't think they're being emotional about it. I think it's to show every other developer that they…

This is a well-timed account deactivation by Apple to prevent Epic from publishing its app store in Apple's app store with iOS 17.4

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Post by nozzlegear »

LightHugger wrote: post #429
etchalon wrote: post #411

Apple is just acting increasingly stupid. There's no word for it.

I feel strange having watched from afar as apple abused their users over and over, and then see apple users be surprised and horrified at this more recent behavior. They have not changed one bit. This was always apple, behavior which everyone who purchased their status symbol focused products at insane markups supported.

> I feel strange having watched from afar as apple abused their users over and over, and then see apple users be surprised and horrified at this more recent behavior.

I’m deeply ingrained in the Apple ecosystem and feel thoroughly unabused right now. But I’m in the US and only watching this play out with mild amusement and schadenfreude at Tim Epic continuing to give and get the middle finger from Apple.

Re: Apple terminates Epic Games developer account, calling it a 'threat' to iOS

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Post by fngjdflmdflg »

arthurofbabylon wrote: post #481

At first I was surprised Epic's shareholders tolerate CEO Tim Sweeney – Epic had this all wrapped up, they got a large portion of what they wanted, but Sweeney just couldn't help but keep the drama going, at risk of their business. But then I realized that Tim Sweeney owns more than half of Epic. If he wants to risk his company for a fracas/kerfuffle, then that is between him and his minority shareholder.

Actually I'm sure Tencent is really glad Tim Sweeney is doing this as they make a bunch of games already eg. pubg mobile (partial ownership there I think). Having an alternative story as an option is probably a strategic benefit for them

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Post by andersa »

jart wrote: post #805
justinclift wrote: post #795

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Thin edge of the wedge" might be the better way to see it? Epic have cracked open the walled garden in one part of the world (EU). They need to consolidate that win in the EU so it doesn't disappear, then leverage it to break open the walled garden in other places as well.

Epic is just Tencent which is an organ of the Chinese state. They might have been able to break open Apple like an egg in Europe but the final boss battle is going to be much harder for them.

This is total nonsense, Tencent only has a minority stake in Epic, like they do with most other gaming companies.

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Post by nozzlegear »

vld_chk wrote: post #138

Idk, subjectively it feels as end of Apple we all know. Clear stagnation in terms of innovation; no new fundamental interface (no smart glasses, AVP looks too expensive and too narrow); abandon on car project; AI for Apple is nowhere close to others; sales decrease; Apple Watch sales ban; Epic Games court; DMA — after taking a leading position at the market, Apple clearly fails to offer anything new and instead inves…

> AVP looks too expensive and too narrow

I bought the first generation and agree with these points, but boy is it really cool tech. I thought it’d be super gimmicky and dumb before I got it, I changed my mind within a couple of hours after using them.

I ended up sending mine back, but only because I bought them to develop vOS apps for it and simply don’t have the time after taking on a new client. I really hope they make a second generation and continue improving on it, I already know I’m going to buy it.

(I know it’s ironic hoping they’ll make more of their fledgling platform after I just sent mine back and potentially helped kill it, but I really loved it.)

Re: Apple terminates Epic Games developer account, calling it a 'threat' to iOS

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Post by ksec »

fennecbutt wrote: post #818

Why is it okay for Apple to ban Epic but allow other devs when it would likely be illegal for Samsung to refuse to sell displays to Apple but sell them to other manufacturers?

>would likely be illegal for Samsung to refuse to sell displays to Apple but sell them to other manufacturers?

Not entirely sure why that would be illegal? You can argue Apple cant do that because there are only two Smartphone ecosystem. But there are plenty of OLED display supplier out there.

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