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Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by Shivetya »

hajile wrote: post #247
coldpie wrote: post #161

Yes. I'm an Android user who is absolutely sick of phablets. I have a Pixel 3A (5.6") and it is way, way too big. I've been quite excited about this iPhone SE announcement. However, the lack of a headphone jack is a huge negative, and 4.7" is the absolute largest I think is reasonable. A little smaller would've been ideal. I'm undecided on whether to switch to the SE, but I genuinely hope it sells like crazy. Then ma…

My current phone has no headphone jack and it's been an absolute pain the whole time. Adapters are hit-or-miss and generally suck. Even high-end devices (mine was over $800) often have hissing due to the analog signal running fractions of a millimeter from a bunch of digital signals. Adding insult to injury, music objectively sucks with bluetooth. A good DAC takes space and power. Multiple drivers take space and powe…

well for those of us who live with blue tooth head sets the lack of jack has not been an issue. even when I needed corded headphones the lightning to standard jack worked fine on my 8+. Since it can wireless charge I could go charge and used a corded headset, but to be honest I haven't found a need as the quality of blue tooth headsets/air pods has been superb

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by philliphaydon »

dang wrote: post #507
philliphaydon wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I went from iPhone 7+ to the iPhone 11 Pro Max, I was 100% convinced I would HATE Face ID... It's why I avoided the 10. But damn it's one of my favourite features! Until Wuhan Flu happened because I wear a mask outside so I have to type my pass code in :( Other than the mask issue. I'm convinced Face ID > Touch ID. Edit: Wow people super upset over me liking Face ID.

It was flagged obviously because you put an unrelated flamebait phrase in the middle of your comment. That's not cool, and we already asked you to stop this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22824585 .

What flame bait phrase? You linked me to a comment where I told a guy off for making excuses for china. In this one I said I’m wearing a mask because of the Wuhan flu. How is what I said flame bait?

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by michaelmrose »

Razengan wrote: post #709
spurgu wrote: post #350

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> It's insane that the "phablet" standard from ~5 years ago is now not even the new standard, but the only standard. Utterly insane. I replaced my SE with a Sony Xperia XZ2 Compact yesterday. It has a 5" screen and decent specs (2018 flagship). About as small as you can get a mobile nowadays, sadly. And wow how I've missed Android, the UX is soooo much better in most aspects. I can't believe I was stuck with iOS (as…

> And wow how I've missed Android, the UX is soooo much better in most aspects. iOS has its problems, but every time I have to handle somebody's Android (i.e. to help them do something faster than telling them), I want to give it back as quickly as possible.

Familiarity may be one factor you never use one device long enough to get familiar with it.

It may also because idiots keep "innovating" with the home screen experience but for most androids the home screen is just another app you can replace with one not made by incompetents.

Nova is nice for example.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by j79 »

Shivetya wrote: post #811
hajile wrote: post #247

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My current phone has no headphone jack and it's been an absolute pain the whole time. Adapters are hit-or-miss and generally suck. Even high-end devices (mine was over $800) often have hissing due to the analog signal running fractions of a millimeter from a bunch of digital signals. Adding insult to injury, music objectively sucks with bluetooth. A good DAC takes space and power. Multiple drivers take space and powe…

well for those of us who live with blue tooth head sets the lack of jack has not been an issue. even when I needed corded headphones the lightning to standard jack worked fine on my 8+. Since it can wireless charge I could go charge and used a corded headset, but to be honest I haven't found a need as the quality of blue tooth headsets/air pods has been superb

I live with a couple bluetooth headsets (Apple's AirPods, Bose QCs, and a pair of Beats), and I would say 95% of the time it's not an issue. There's the 5% of the time, however, where I need to re-pair the headset (not the biggest issue in the world) or the battery is dead (bigger issue) and I rarely, if ever, have the dongle on me (or even a pair of headphones to use the dongle with) - obviously the biggest issue when I want to listen.

That 5% of the time, while not often, is enough to remind me why I held onto my iPhone 6S until it finally died on me. As an iPhone user, I truly wish Apple would offer an iPhone 12 with a headphone jack, because I would absolutely buy it (two of the best pair of headphones I own are corded and it's a shame I can't just plug them into my iPhone when I please...)

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by stetrain »

nico_h wrote: post #201
Eric_WVGG wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yup. If it’s any consolation, consistent rumors have been pointing to a new, smaller size added to the flagship lineup this fall. It will supposedly have a similar footprint to the 5 series, but with the bezel-less screen like the modern models.

Smaller as in similar sized to the iPhone 8 (5.4") instead of the iPhone 11 (6.1") or 11 PRO (5.8"). https://www.macrumors.com/roundup/iphone-12/ I went from an iPhone 6 to an iPhone SE instead of the 8 over the size.

Smaller than the iPhone 8:

https://imgix.bustle.com/inverse/17/df/7b/88/27fe/4afe/aff4/...

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by yodsanklai »

kayoone wrote: post #657

I don't really get the hate for the lack of a headphone jack tbh. Have people complaining about this ever really given good bluetooth headphones a chance? My Beats Solo 3 have fantastic battery life, i can switch between devices with a click of a button (in the case of the Bose QC35 even be connected to two devices at the same time, listening to music on the laptop while being able to receive phone calls on the phone…

> Have people complaining about this ever really given good bluetooth headphones a chance?

I have bluetooth headphones, but I still rely on my wired earbuds if I go running, or if I want to travel light, or for phone calls. And I also have regular non-bluetooth good quality headphones that I like to use (especially when the bluetooth ones run out of battery). For me, it's not only a matter of sound quality, but I find it convenient to be able to plug any headphones without bothering with bluetooth.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by stetrain »

trashcan wrote: post #813

Anyone know if this will work with Google Fi out of the box?

I use my iPhone XS on Fi.

You don't get carrier switching (T-Mobile only) and visual voicemail is done through the Fi app instead of the native phone app. Also no WiFi calling/SMS.

Other than that it works fairly well and costs a lot less than a standard plan at the other carriers.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by epaulson »

Is there any word on the screen material? I have a Pixel 3a that for the most part I really like, but one of the ways I think they got the price down was by using a glass that was much less scratch-resistant. My original Pixel never scratched, the 3a is scuff up badly after just 6 months. My iPhone 7 is a couple of years old and also has no scratches, so I'm hoping for a similarly scratch-resistant screen.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by stetrain »

threepio wrote: post #443
graeme wrote: post #345

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple is referring to the 6/6S/7/8 case. It is indeed extremely popular. Check out these stats from a year ago. On this app (which has a broad appeal), the 6/6S/7/8 had a 47% share. iPhone 5s/SE had 11% The old SE form factor is great! And those who like it, like it a lot. But you're clearly wrong if you take that to mean that the new SE form factor is an unpopular one. https://david-smith.org/blog/2019/06/24/the-pop…

By calling this model "iPhone SE", they're plainly hoping to appeal to people who already own the earlier "iPhone SE" (and probably have not upgraded in several years). Among those people, the larger form factor is unpopular. Obviously, people who like big phones already have plenty of choice.

When they released the last SE, it was the previous generation phone design with updated internals at a lower price point.

When they released this SE, it is the previous generation phone design with updated internals at a lower price point.

I don't think Apple's intention was to get all of the "I like tiny phones" people to upgrade and they somehow just missed the mark. They know who they want to buy this phone, it just doesn't happen to be one group of people who liked the old SE.

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