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Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by crispyambulance »

andrepd wrote: post #214

I was itching for this announcement, not because I want to buy an iPhone, but because this will finally mean other manufacturers will start to make compact phones. It drives me up the wall that I simply cannot find a reasonably competent phone (i.e. mid/upper range from the past 4 years) which is not absolutely fucking huge. It's insane that the "phablet" standard from ~5 years ago is now not even the new standard, b…

It's called "IPhone SE" but does that mean it's the same height and width as the previous SE??

That's the key thing about the SE and before it the 5S-- something that can be operated with one hand and that can fit in a pocket.

It's clear from the photo that it doesn't have a camera optic that's flush with the back, nor does it have that cool pseudo 1960's Philips-like metal case with flat beveled sides.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by deftturtle »

ido wrote: post #62
JKCalhoun wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you have teenagers, these are the models you look for. I'll probably by a few.

Is it?? My kids aren't teenagers yet but if they were I wouldn't be buying them $400 phones.

Same here. I'd got an iPhone 7 with 128GB for only $100 used, on Craigslist. I only buy used phones now, and I never spend more than $200. The market is always saturated with used phones, and they work fine.

I bought two Sony a7ii cameras and a flash for only $1400, because they were used. Full price new, it would've been 3600. They work great, and I can use my money on other things. I see very few reasons to buy new electronics, especially given the security of an iPhone and how easily they are reset.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by danso »

bluedevil2k wrote: post #2

An upgraded iPhone 8 with a starting storage of 64 Gb at only $399. Seems like a great deal. Makes me seriously consider this model for my next phone instead of spending $1200 on an iPhone 11 Max.

Yeah, I priced out the 256GB model and saw that it was $299, if I were to trade in my 8+. I reflexively assumed the store had an error and reloaded the page. Can't remember the last time I've seen a new Apple device priced at <$300 (iPod nano?)

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by graeme »

threepio wrote: post #33

"Popular design"? On the contrary. As an iPhone SE owner, this is exactly the form factor that fans of the iPhone 4/5 series (like me) rejected as being too large.

Apple is referring to the 6/6S/7/8 case. It is indeed extremely popular.

Check out these stats from a year ago. On this app (which has a broad appeal), the 6/6S/7/8 had a 47% share. iPhone 5s/SE had 11%

The old SE form factor is great! And those who like it, like it a lot. But you're clearly wrong if you take that to mean that the new SE form factor is an unpopular one.

https://david-smith.org/blog/2019/06/24/the-popularity-of-th...

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by wyre »

goatlover wrote: post #322
koheripbal wrote: post #270

Earlier quoted context omitted.

...as someone who absolutely loves big phones - I am on the other side of this argument. I read and watch shows on my phone constantly, and screen size is a major factor for me. I specifically buy clothes with larger pockets to accommodate. I agree that choice would be better - but I imagine that economies of scale sometimes means having only one size for everyone if you want to keep them cheaper than the competition…

I never understood watching stuff on a phone given tablets, laptops, PCs, smartTVs and even VR headsets. But then again, I take my laptop everywhere and use it for everything when there's a choice between the two.

Not everyone has the necessity or ability to carry around a laptop with them everywhere. The convenience of a 6.5"+ screen is great if you are away from a laptop.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by jidiculous »

ivraatiems wrote: post #64

As a current iPhone SE user, here's my assessment: Pros: * Feature set in terms of processor, camera, etc., is exactly what I want * Continued presence of Touch ID is a huge plus, I don't like Face ID * Price point is, admittedly, fantastic Cons: * Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable * Form factor is, candidly, still too big for my tiny hands * Color schemes aren't as nice as the SE's (can I contribute to CO…

I'd say that the availability of eSIM is a pro as well, although that just seems like a catch-up to most modern smartphones now.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by tradesmanhelix »

tazjin wrote: post #68

The old iPhone SE had two things that appealed to me (and anecdotally, that appealed to some of my friends): 1. it was small-ish 2. it had a headphone jack Without those I don't see this as a viable followup product.

Agree. I was so excited to see this announcement and kept reading and reading to see if they had left the headphone jack :( I would have bought two _today_ if they'd kept the same outside and just updated camera + internals.

As it stands, not sure what I'll do as an updated SE was my last hope that Apple would continue making a phone with a headphone jack, but that was probably a pipe dream to begin with.

And please don't try to sell me on Bluetooth. It works OK 60-70% of the time in my experience, but it's super frustrating when it fails (esp. when trying to help older less tech-savvy relatives) and I often find myself just wanting to be able to plug in a darn cord. Ahh the good 'ol days...

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by spurgu »

andrepd wrote: post #214

I was itching for this announcement, not because I want to buy an iPhone, but because this will finally mean other manufacturers will start to make compact phones. It drives me up the wall that I simply cannot find a reasonably competent phone (i.e. mid/upper range from the past 4 years) which is not absolutely fucking huge. It's insane that the "phablet" standard from ~5 years ago is now not even the new standard, b…

> It's insane that the "phablet" standard from ~5 years ago is now not even the new standard, but the only standard.

Utterly insane.

I replaced my SE with a Sony Xperia XZ2 Compact yesterday. It has a 5" screen and decent specs (2018 flagship). About as small as you can get a mobile nowadays, sadly.

And wow how I've missed Android, the UX is soooo much better in most aspects. I can't believe I was stuck with iOS (as an experiment) for almost 1.5 years. Reason being that I hadn't been able to find anything below 5" in the Android world.

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