Looks more like a computer mouse than a sports car.
Ferrari Luce
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Why do you see enjoying doing something, driving in this case, as being some sort way of “asserting dominance”? Some people just enjoy things because of all the activities and associations they have which involve that thing. I come from a place where we have both good public transport and a sizeable automotive enthusiast subculture, one doesn’t preclude the other. You seem to be pushing the idea that car enthusiasts…
Same guy here. I understand some people derive pleasure from the “hobby” of owning large mobile metal boxes and I am not against it, but notice we are commenting on a 650k Ferrari and a butt-ugly one at that. The people in the video are literally smiling smugly. I kid you not. I’m talking about all those fancy Audi, Tesla, Volvo and BMW drivers that want to feel superior in their mobile box of death and waste. They a…
People think that everyone spends hours and hours deliberating over the car they buy - and some do, but those are the same people who likely have discussions about how the iPhone 17e is significantly different than the iPhone 16 (ooo "Support for display of multiple languages and characters simultaneously"!).
Talk to various people with $100k+ cars and you often find they bought it "because they needed something and the color was nice" or "they always buy from Joe" and other similarly seemingly insignificant reasons.
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> The Ferrari brand is rather stagnant and not innovative. They need to do something like this to drive more attention and sales. Wild assertion. Ferrari is currently #8 largest market cap for a car manufacturer. They're valued above Mercedes, BMW, Volkswagen and every other Euro car brand. They couldn't be more successful as a small automaker if they tried. But you think they need to do something like this to drive…
the world is shifting to EVs and Ferrari doesn't want to get left behind. It's making a bold statement with this model
which has nothing to do with your (wild) statements about how Ferrari is stagnant and desperate to boost sales...
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#805I like it. I'm not a Ferrari expert, and it looks like it could be from any number of manufacturers, which is part of why it's getting criticism here. But the interior looks nice, simple, button-oriented, and I like the pivoting center console.
It would be a great car at about 20% of the price.
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honest question: is there any difference between this and the Pontiac Aztek? I guess time will answer that one... >> the Aztek was to signal a design renaissance for GM, and to "make a statement about breaking from GM's instinct for caution. One designer said that during the design process, the Aztek was made "aggressive for the sake of being aggressive." Peters, the Chief Designer said "we wanted to do a bold, in-yo…
The Pontiac Aztek was at least bold, and like the Nissan Cube, people didn't like the looks, but those who bought it really seemed to love it inordinately. This thing isn't even bold, it's just ... a generic car? If they had made it outrageous (think: teardrop which is most efficient aerodynamically or something) it'd make more sense.
My cousin bought a brand new aztek off the lot for way way below sticker like 60% because they sold so poorly because of how ugly they were perceived to be. I think the people who love them probably love them because of how cheap they were.
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#807Earlier quoted context omitted.
> This Ferrari will be colossally better in terms of build quality Will it? I've owned a few Ferraris and I've driven quite a few others. They're lots of fun, but I would never describe Ferrari as a company with high build quality standards.
Quality is different than something that feels “special” which every Ferrari I’ve sat in or drove has in spades. Whether or not it’s well put together is another topic entirely.
But the point made was about build quality soecifi8
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#808We don't want your electric car . We want your car, but electric . All people want is an electric Audi allroad. Instead, we get an e-tron. All people want is an electric V90 wagon. Instead we get a polestar. All people want is an electric Jeep Wrangler. Instead we get "Recon EV". The reason for this is that the incumbent manufacturers understand clearly that the electric versions would completely eclipse the ICE mode…
The reason for this is that the incumbent manufacturers understand clearly that the electric versions would completely eclipse the ICE models and their existing investments in design and tooling would rapidly diminish.
The Ford F-150 Lightning is a clear indicator that the reverse is true: The market for “like my ICE vehicle, but with BEV tradeoffs instead of ICE ones” is today quite small, especially in the absence of major government subsidies to the consumer.
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I think they realize that in the future EVs will far outsell their petrol, so it makes sense to keep the brand for those. The design is bonkers though , a major blunder
A $650k car could be fueled by dandelion farts and angel's tears and the target market wouldn't care much.
it's more about living with an EV, charging schedules etc
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#810Makes sense from corporate perspective to hire the "Apple Designer" to craft the interior experience, it's fresh input from a very respected UX design-lead of another industry. But handing over responsibility for the exterior is quite questionable IMO. To me, the exterior has lost almost all of Ferrari's identity. It's a nice car-design, but if you'd tell me it's a Hyundai, Lexus or BYD I would believe you. I wonder…
I felt the web site was "lights on nobody home", I think the interesting fact about this vehicle is that it is electric and even though you can pick different colors and a heated steering wheel as an option there isn't a single word about power train. Just being a legendary brand like Ferrari doesn't mean that 100% of us understand 100% about 100% of your products.
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