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US special forces soldier arrested after allegedly winning $400k on Maduro raid

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Re: US special forces soldier arrested after allegedly winning $400k on Maduro raid

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Post by b112 »

notahacker wrote: post #786
b112 wrote: post #763

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no discussion of wealth in your quote. And further, that quote supports what I've been saying. It specifically says "the cause of this riot was not Tulsa", and "It might have happened anywhere". If it "might have happened anywhere", it therefore has nothing to do with the unique high-wealth of this area.

Takes a lot of cognitive dissonance to unironically suggest that the axiomatic Southern racist belief that "the Negro" should regard "the white man as his benefactor" has no links to their relative wealth. When you find yourself drawing parallels between your own arguments and those of contemporary white supremacists asserting that the attitudes of local whites were not at all to blame, it's perhaps a good idea to re…

Wow. Your own quote validates what I'm saying, but regardless of your position that it isn't so...

Delving into "you're a racist if you don't agree with my take on this event" is a very, very scummy and morally bankrupt thing to do. Especially since you're literally making up that comparison, for nothing I've said indicates I absolved anyone of anything at all. In fact, I've been asserting that whites of the time didn't need a special reason, like wealth, to do what they did.

People asserting that wealth was required to cause this tragedy, are actually giving excuses as to why it happened. Racism doesn't require that.

Re: US special forces soldier arrested after allegedly winning $400k on Maduro raid

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Post by pempem »

mizzao wrote: post #750
themafia wrote: post #748

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What exactly would that look like from the position of an individual low rank unit? What would $32k of risk look like on a foreign battle field? I'm struggling to understand this prerogative. What would be far larger source of risk is if they bet _against_ the operation and then personally sabotaged it. That's far more understandable but it's not what happened here. It apparently and sadly needs to be said on Hacker…

He's a master sergeant, once of the highest enlisted ranks, involved in planning the mission. Not low rank at all.

He's low enough that he felt he must go along with kidnapping the leader of a foreign country

Re: US special forces soldier arrested after allegedly winning $400k on Maduro raid

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Post by LEDThereBeLight »

yieldcrv wrote: post #56

He screwed himself by taking steps to show how much of an amateur he was, by trying to delete his polymarket account and change the email address on his crypto exchange account He should have just cashed out and donated 20% of it to Mar-a-Lago saying exactly what he did and a thank you. It's a little too low for a club membership but since the President's family is a shareholder of Polymarket I think it would have be…

You’re right. Maybe a statement with something like “Never bet against America!”

Re: US special forces soldier arrested after allegedly winning $400k on Maduro raid

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Post by tranceylc »

HDThoreaun wrote: post #735
tranceylc wrote: post #588

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I don’t understand the point of denying reality when it unfolds in front of you. Plenty of evidence for these things. Denial of obvious truth is an American epidemic and cultural export

The point is that none of the congressional cases would end in a conviction. So unless you want to suspend rule of law theres not really much we can do without some hard evidence.

Rule of law has been suspended in your country already. That’s an observable fact

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Post by pasquinelli »

Rover222 wrote: post #781
pasquinelli wrote: post #573

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well tell us how it actually is then.

BBC was interviewing Iranians 2 days ago in Tehran and the majority said they support the war. Venezuelans are having political gatherings for the first time in a decade.

> BBC was interviewing Iranians 2 days ago in Tehran and the majority said they support the war.

so you see something on tv and just believe the impression that it leaves you with. you actually think it's plausible that a majority of people in a city support the side of a conflict that is bombing that city?

i'm sure a majority of people support the war; specifically they support the irgc in fighting back against america and israel, who have started a war of aggression against iran for no coherent reason.

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Post by everyday7732 »

notepad0x90 wrote: post #427
selcuka wrote: post #145

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"A military operation is being planned" is very different from "Maduro will be kidnapped in the next x hours". "Pentagon planning a military operation" is not exactly classified information as it is safe to assume that Pentagon is always planning a military operation.

did anyone have any reason to believe that was classified information that was leaked, instead of just a random person speculating? if not, then he had no intent to leak that information. If a random soldier told you, "iran will be nuked tomorrow" do you believe them? especially on a speculation platform, for all you know he's also guessing based on the same activites and events the public is observing. laws are all…

If a random soldier bet me $32,000 that iran would be nuked tomorrow, I would believe them a lot more.

If you are a potential assassination target and you notice that a prediction market about your assassination has a sudden weird spike on a specific week, then you would likely take extra precautions in that week. After this incident, surely other world leaders and public figures are watching the prediction markets for exactly this.

The stated point of prediction markets is to aggregate private opinions into public predictions of the future. If you participate using classified information and influence those public predictions, then that's leaking that classified information. This is more true if the bets you make are large and the market is relatively small, then you will send a much more clear signal.

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Post by rabidonrails »

joquarky wrote: post #656
rabidonrails wrote: post #642

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Israel owns out government? You have proof of this outlandish claim?

I'm trying to determine the causal basis for this and given the ubiquity of evidence, I can only conclude that it must be sea lioning.

thanks for proving my point. There's no evidence other than you falling prey to the tropes of yesterday.

In what world does it make sense that Israel controls our government? Only in the world where you think that Israel controls our banks etc.

Let's keep this conversation tied to evidence before launching attacks that are based on prejudice.

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Post by singingtoday »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #196
singingtoday wrote: post #98

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If you guilt me into voting, I'll probably vote for somebody you don't like. Isn't it better that I don't vote?

> Isn't it better that I don't vote? Maybe. I'm not actually that invested in people voting. But that doesn't negate the hypocrisy of complaining when you're, through inaction, endorsing the status quo .

Consider this; if you vote, you have no right to complain. People like to twist that around. I know, they say, they say: “well if you don’t vote you have no right to complain”. But where’s the logic in that? If you vote, and you elect dishonest, incompetent people, and they get into office and screw everything up, well you are responsible for what they have done, YOU caused the problem, you voted them in, you have no right to complain. I on the other hand, who did not vote, WHO DID NOT VOTE. Who in fact did not even leave the house on election-day, am in no way responsible for what these people have done, and have every RIGHT to complain as loud as I want, about the mess YOU created, that I had nothing to do with.

(George Carlin quote - intended to be humorous)

Re: US special forces soldier arrested after allegedly winning $400k on Maduro raid

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Post by [deleted] »

_carbyau_ wrote: post #111
singingtoday wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you guilt me into voting, I'll probably vote for somebody you don't like. Isn't it better that I don't vote?

No. It is better that you vote. For at the end of the day you can: 1. know you tried to express your wishes 2. know that the outcome is because people expressed their wishes 3. realise the balance between 1. and 2. whether the outcome is as you hoped, and especially if it is not as you hoped. This is important because hanging back and saying "Well I didn't vote for them!" is by default not supporting democracy as you…

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