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US special forces soldier arrested after allegedly winning $400k on Maduro raid

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Re: US special forces soldier arrested after allegedly winning $400k on Maduro raid

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Post by notepad0x90 »

jcgrillo wrote: post #87
sigmar wrote: post #42

Since this is relevant to many HN comments, copy-pasted the charges from the pdf indictment in the linked page: Count 1 - Unlawful Use of Confidential Government Information for Personal Gain Count 2 - Theft of Nonpublic Government Information Count 3 - Commodities Fraud Count 4 - Wire Fraud Count 5 - Engaging in a Monetary Transaction in Property Derived from Specified Unlawful Activity

It's interesting they don't think they can get him for leaking classified information. To me that seems like the biggest issue--I mean sure, it's bad he made money on it, but it would have been really bad if he'd gotten someone killed by blabbing to the internet.

did he leak the information, or just speculate on it? is it leaking classified info when pentagon officials order lots of pizza and thus inform the world that a military operation is being planned?

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Post by jaredwiener »

testing22321 wrote: post #121
jcgrillo wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's interesting they don't think they can get him for leaking classified information. To me that seems like the biggest issue--I mean sure, it's bad he made money on it, but it would have been really bad if he'd gotten someone killed by blabbing to the internet.

You’re just seeing, clearly, the priorities of the US. Is it helping sick citizens? No. Is it feeding the hungry? No. Free education, housing the un housed or protecting the environment? No, no , no. To be perfectly clear, it’s not giving vets the benefits they deserve or keeping soldiers safe either. Money. The priority is money. Getting it. And making sure those that don’t have it don’t get it.

The government is very big. They can have multiple priorities. The Dept of Justice does not provide medical care, education, or anything else you listed -- they prosecute crimes. And using classified military plans for personal gain while potentially putting fellow soldiers at risk seems like a crime that is worth prosecuting.

Re: US special forces soldier arrested after allegedly winning $400k on Maduro raid

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

genxy wrote: post #129
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> what laws were broken "Van Dyke was indicted on charges that included unlawful use of confidential information for personal gain, theft of nonpublic government information, commodities fraud, and wire fraud."

How does this not apply to Trump and the rest of congress? Billions in market manipulation.

It’s a good question. I don’t know. Unfortunately, my circle is mostly in securities, and thus that is not.

Re: US special forces soldier arrested after allegedly winning $400k on Maduro raid

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Post by kshacker »

wmf wrote: post #43
jh00ker wrote: post #19

How many people in congress made the exact same bet on the exact same information, and for them it's "legal?"

None, because Congress wasn't informed of the Maduro raid until afterwards?

Usually there is this gang of 6 or gang of 8 who is still kept informed.

Re: US special forces soldier arrested after allegedly winning $400k on Maduro raid

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Post by selcuka »

notepad0x90 wrote: post #141
jcgrillo wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's interesting they don't think they can get him for leaking classified information. To me that seems like the biggest issue--I mean sure, it's bad he made money on it, but it would have been really bad if he'd gotten someone killed by blabbing to the internet.

did he leak the information, or just speculate on it? is it leaking classified info when pentagon officials order lots of pizza and thus inform the world that a military operation is being planned?

"A military operation is being planned" is very different from "Maduro will be kidnapped in the next x hours".

"Pentagon planning a military operation" is not exactly classified information as it is safe to assume that Pentagon is always planning a military operation.

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Post by yieldcrv »

XorNot wrote: post #93
GolfPopper wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Easy to say, hard to do, when your two "choices" at the ballot box represent slightly different groups of wealthy donors.

Ah enlightened centrism rears its head again. Remember folks: at all points both sides are exactly the same /s.

Everyone knows how the parties are different

Its valid to be more annoyed by the ways that they’re the same

your cause is not my cause, its better for the viability of your preferred party if you remember that

Re: US special forces soldier arrested after allegedly winning $400k on Maduro raid

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Post by Aunche »

jh00ker wrote: post #19

How many people in congress made the exact same bet on the exact same information, and for them it's "legal?"

People act like the pervasiveness of insider trading in Congress is an indisputable fact, when there have been only a few trades with suspicious timing, which is similar to what you would expect statistically from 535 wealthier people trading with no insider information. The only case where I feel like insider trading is likely was Richard Burr's sales before COVID.

Re: US special forces soldier arrested after allegedly winning $400k on Maduro raid

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Post by mcmcmc »

StrangeClone wrote: post #118

Congress is protected but soliders arent from profiting. Why are laws so biased?

This isn’t actually the case. Congress members and their employees have been banned from insider trading since the 2012 STOCK Act. That’s why they do it through family members now
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