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Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by sarthakdash »

hedora wrote: post #797
ineedasername wrote: post #793

I think bootstrapping a device like this into public acceptance will need a gradual approach, given current tech limits in size, weight, and the cross section w/ fashion. People often choose glasses to reflect the personality they want to display (accurate or not) and until the tech allows for this level of personal expression, widespread adoption will be close to impossible. When I had a Note 2 in 2012, many found i…

I wouldn’t say large phones were so much accepted as forced on people. I hate my iPhone mini 13 because it is too fucking big for my giant hands. However, at this point, carrying a phone is basically mandatory, and it (and the giant se3) were/are the smallest workable ones on the market.

You can try Asus Zenfone. It's smaller than an iPhone 13 Mini.

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by getwiththeprog »

__MatrixMan__ wrote: post #293

I met a lady once, we were in a line at DefCon. She worked on these and was quite concerned that they'd end up on the heads of children, feeding content-reaction biometrics about those children to people who would then use that data to manipulate those children in harmful ways. I'm curious if people think that that's worth worrying about, or if the idea of optimizing ad placement based on whether it makes your pupils…

Am I worried about a a mega-corp programming all the nations children? Yes! But lets not forget that programming of children already exists. TV, social media and ... parents and grandparents and teachers. The raw technology adds nothing. The software implanted we certainly need to think about.

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by ActionHank »

commakozzi wrote: post #799
ActionHank wrote: post #789

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"negativity" or people who are stating their perspective on a product. Was there a lot of engineering, novel problem solving, and even new invention? Yes. Does that matter to customers if it comes together in a product that they don't feel is good enough? No. For a site focused on tech and startups there is an awful lot of whiteknighting for companies who should know and do better.

it's a prototype...

Doesn’t matter.

Don’t show it to the public if you don’t want their opinion. Assuming meta knew this, it’s pretty insane that there are people defending the honour of their billion dollar corporate bff.

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by larodi »

casenmgreen wrote: post #781
FL33TW00D wrote: post #768

Incredible amount of negativity here. Huge kudos to Meta for breaking new ground and doing a ton of R&D/M&A to get to this point. Once MicroLED comes on a little further and the form factor shrinks this could be the next consumer electronics platform. Silicon carbide is really interesting, we need high RI materials to make this work. Hopefully glass 3D printing or similar will make cheap, Rx waveguides possible.

> IIncredible amount of negativity here. It's FB. They're not popular. I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole, because I expect it will be absolutely stuffed with user surveillance.

Was just going to write that there is no way people trust META to become their eyes. Maybe some smaller player. We already greatly distrust f*n mobiles which eavesdrop on everyone's conversation. Considering recent cyberpunk breach I actually expect more people to try to distance themselves from this all. It will probably be top product for telemedicine and teletutoring one day, but it will never be safe in the hands of Meta, no matter how many lammas they put in the loose...

Think about it - sometimes it is much more about trust than technology. Yeah, I know all your chats go back and forth commercial GPTs, but you know half of my GPT interraction is already local inference based and it does similar job, and is OK. So that much about wanting to let s.o. see your naked friends. Their days are numbered and if you see how IT history unfolded - there is always rush to the cloud and away from the mainframe. Its like the breathwork in criya yoga, happens simultaneously in a sense.

From the funny side of things - such wearables open perspective to lot of people talking to themselves being O.k. in society. Perhaps we could only agree to have such visual interface when things get closer to what guys have in Cyberpunk 2077. Honestly I really hope someone developes a genetic enhancement or all children born 2000 suddently become enlightened enough to master telepathy.

I'm much more fascinated by the propspect of personal electronics, and how cheap they have become. I don't want Meta in them for sure, and nobody apt-get installs gcloud or fb as his must have tool.

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Post by getwiththeprog »

dartharva wrote: post #684
zmmmmm wrote: post #449

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heh ... i'm frustrated that the schools my kids are going to aren't embracing this tech. the applications in education are absolutely mind blowing.

You see, the "struggle" in learning that comes from trying to form concepts out of text you read from books or from teacher's voices you listen in school instead of a complete audiovisual intuitive feed like VR will provide, is actually necessary. Your children will get impaired if they don't build the skill to learn from non-tech methods. Schools in India (and mostly Asia) enforce chalkboard and pen-and-paper method…

Ed-tech will not work in schools until people (teachers) learn to use technology properly. Simply putting on videos for kids (as you say) cannot replace all the skills the traditional model gives us.

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Post by sprayk »

sarthakdash wrote: post #801
hedora wrote: post #797

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn’t say large phones were so much accepted as forced on people. I hate my iPhone mini 13 because it is too fucking big for my giant hands. However, at this point, carrying a phone is basically mandatory, and it (and the giant se3) were/are the smallest workable ones on the market.

You can try Asus Zenfone. It's smaller than an iPhone 13 Mini.

the only Zenfone they make now is the Zenfone 11 Ultra, which is a big phone :(

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Post by marcosdumay »

dools wrote: post #589

I just can't imagine ever buying something like this from Facebook. I know everyone shits on about Google being bad and whatnot, but the things I buy from Google aren't really part of their advertising business. I pay for Workspace and Google Cloud Platform, and those things don't advertise at me. I am more likely to cruise around already logged into Google as a result of using those things, which obviously plays int…

I wouldn't buy something like this that I can not control.

And yeah, I do expect that if Google sells it, there's a chance they will allow me to control it, but if it's Facebook, there's no chance at all.

But in either case, the product is too intrusive to concede control to those companies.

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by getwiththeprog »

insane_dreamer wrote: post #581
twoodfin wrote: post #357

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I don’t think ad placement for children should be the primary concern. Unless I’m misunderstanding the current state of the technology, it’s possible today with a little effort to put my biometrics in a feedback loop with (say) GPT-4o, and use those measurements to rapidly produce and refine an increasingly horrifying series of images, personalized to my lizard brain reactions. That’s gross, but the same technique co…

> I don’t think ad placement for children should be the primary concern. But eventually it all devolves to this (and I include teens Remember that FB started out as a way to connect with your college buddies.

FB started out as a way to rate hot college girls! https://www.eviemagazine.com/post/before-facebook-zuckerberg...

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Post by mminer237 »

yndoendo wrote: post #791
FL33TW00D wrote: post #768

Incredible amount of negativity here. Huge kudos to Meta for breaking new ground and doing a ton of R&D/M&A to get to this point. Once MicroLED comes on a little further and the form factor shrinks this could be the next consumer electronics platform. Silicon carbide is really interesting, we need high RI materials to make this work. Hopefully glass 3D printing or similar will make cheap, Rx waveguides possible.

This would be like Telsa coming with new tech. Tesla / X-Twitter & Facebook / Meta are companies I will never financially support. They make money off propagating misinformation and their CEOs are not decent human-beings.

I mean, sure, I get that. But also, are any big tech CEOs decent human beings? It's hard to participate in tech at all with that strict of a moral code.

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by plutokras »

lifeinthevoid wrote: post #605

My biggest gripe with AR products is that they will just become a tool to spoil the real world with ads everywhere. No thanks.

As others already mentioned, the real space is already full of all sorts of advertisements. I personally can't wait for an AR uBlock.
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