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Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Post by Nomentatus »

bmelton wrote: post #430
Nomentatus wrote: post #340

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Agreed, well said. Elon's had a busy productive life, and my take on my University friends who've had busy productive lives is that they now have the self-insight of a baked potato, roughly. No doubt because they haven't had spare time to reflect on their actions or motivations. But that doesn't mean they can't self-correct, it just means they usually have to run into a brick wall or two before they do. I'm guessing…

I'm still highly critical of what Musk is doing (again, without knowing the 'why') but something that seems important and is going unnoticed is that while the previous administration's actions were just as arbitrary and capricious, they almost always related to events that were popular topics of discussion like recent elections, a global pandemic, and other things that are naturally topics of discussion. I think the…

You're right, about the previous Twitter administration and how it worked. Take away this (big) pinch and Twitter can be a real improvement on the last version.

I have trouble swallowing this abuse of market power because the courts and govts have allowed so much such abuse for so long. It's a big issue for me (and the EU.) Without that context, I might find it easier to shrug off.

No question, speech and community make for interesting decisions; if he can stay within the law, he'll have a fair bit of leeway from me.

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Post by dredmorbius »

rising-sky wrote: post #702
pg wrote: post #350

I'm not leaving Twitter. It seems more likely than not that Elon will reverse the ban on links to other social media sites. I just don't want to hang out there in the meantime. Plus given the way things are going, it seemed like a good time to learn about alternatives. I still think Elon is a smart guy. His work on cars and rockets speaks for itself. Nor do I think he's the villain a lot of people try to make him out…

Well account is now suspended so I guess you were "made to leave"

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Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Post by mcv »

pardon_me wrote: post #793
pg wrote: post #350

I'm not leaving Twitter. It seems more likely than not that Elon will reverse the ban on links to other social media sites. I just don't want to hang out there in the meantime. Plus given the way things are going, it seemed like a good time to learn about alternatives. I still think Elon is a smart guy. His work on cars and rockets speaks for itself. Nor do I think he's the villain a lot of people try to make him out…

The best choice. Twitter was Twitter before Elon Musk and it could be Twitter again after Elon Tusk - although it is likely to tank unless he has the balls to move on before say 2024. I wonder what's next...

If Twitter is going down, I think it's going down well before 2024 rolls around.

Also, I don't think Twitter is ever going to be the same. It trades heavily on its reputation, and reputation damage isn't so easily undone. People who left and found something else, won't be coming back.

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Post by jdgoesmarching »

croes wrote: post #519
speakfreely wrote: post #481

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Organizing the efforts of large teams of smart people is one of the most high value activities you can do in our society. Edit: not saying that's happening at Twitter, but it has demonstrably occurred at Tesla and SpaceX.

You can also hire people for that

It’s crazy how people can look at Elon’s twitter saga and come away with the impression that he is a good people manager.

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Post by concordDance »

Dracophoenix wrote: post #484
pg wrote: post #350

I'm not leaving Twitter. It seems more likely than not that Elon will reverse the ban on links to other social media sites. I just don't want to hang out there in the meantime. Plus given the way things are going, it seemed like a good time to learn about alternatives. I still think Elon is a smart guy. His work on cars and rockets speaks for itself. Nor do I think he's the villain a lot of people try to make him out…

> Plus given the way things are going, it seemed like a good time to learn about alternatives. There's HN and Reddit. It helps to dog-food your own investments every now and then.

Good lord, don't recommend reddit in general! Recommend specific subreddits!

r/all and similar are populated by politically active teens with no understanding of context or nuance or how to have a level headed discussion.

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Post by [deleted] »

dang wrote: post #748
breck wrote: post #544

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> Elon has utterly wrecked his reputation over the last couple of months (and probably longer than that) and it is getting worse, not better. Lol. This could be the worst prediction from an otherwise smart person I've ever seen. Please elaborate and define it mathematically. (My guess in trying to do so you'll either discover the errors in your thinking or double down on your intellectual dishonesty)

No personal attacks, please. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Post by breck »

dang wrote: post #748
breck wrote: post #544

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Elon has utterly wrecked his reputation over the last couple of months (and probably longer than that) and it is getting worse, not better. Lol. This could be the worst prediction from an otherwise smart person I've ever seen. Please elaborate and define it mathematically. (My guess in trying to do so you'll either discover the errors in your thinking or double down on your intellectual dishonesty)

No personal attacks, please. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

You are right. Yet, why is his not a personal attack on Elon?

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Post by schuyler2d »

kristiandupont wrote: post #6

How does one find a good Mastodon server? On his website it says "Follow me at @paulg@mas.to" -- does that mean that he is on mas.to? What if I want to follow him but also someone on another server? Or do I not understand how it works?

I'd suggest not being afraid to have two accounts -- join one that's more niche where the local instance community might be interesting and join one of the main/large ones.

It's easy enough to sync up follows.

Some small ones block the large ones (for their moderation policies), so having the small account will let you follow anyone, and the large can be a hedge if the smaller one becomes unstable

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Post by bombolo »

Strom wrote: post #618
bombolo wrote: post #543

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You mean he hired product managers?

I'm curious why do you think SpaceX and Tesla are market leaders in their niches? Is Elon the only person who hires product managers?

Testla is market leader in "tesla cars"… which is an odd way to define a market leader.

Spacex, I honestly don't know enough to comment about.

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