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Re: Terraria on Stadia cancelled after developer's Google account gets locked

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Post by hinkley »

koheripbal wrote: post #766
dleslie wrote: post #747

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And then the competitors _tacitly_ collude and form an oligopoly, using their combined market power to consume small competitors and collectively reduce product quality. The unregulated free market makes minnows of us all for the whales to feed upon.

This is obviously not true in a majority of industries

Regulatory capture makes it hard for new companies to enter a field.

It's one of the main reasons there's so much hype about SpaceX.

What seems to happen is that an oligopoly makes the written and unwritten rules so complex that they injure themselves, creating a power vacuum for deregulation or just someone saying "fuck your (unwritten) rules" and either staying exactly within the confines of the letter of the laws, or leveraging their popularity into getting away with infractions. "Oops, didn't mean it!"

That we root for the underdog is in part an expression of our shared pain in the stunted progress that was made up until that point.

Re: Terraria on Stadia cancelled after developer's Google account gets locked

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Post by gowld »

blunte wrote: post #664
dillondoyle wrote: post #581

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FB is the worst when it comes to this. I created instagram filters this cycle for a client which I thought would be really cool; I haven't seen any from campaigns beyond the Biden Aviators (I work in politics). I wanted to do a 'i just voted' type challenge; tried many ideas and combinations like swappable campaign buttons without text showing 'issues,' branding, different voting method 3d objects. Facebook kept reje…

I'm no fan of Facebook by any measure, but I think when it comes to current political content and ads they are in a very tricky position. If they say something is not allowed, at least one group will claim they are suppressing free speech. But if they allow it, they end up having to allow some misleading or completely false disinformation.

But they are disallowing things so GP can claim they are suppressing free speech.

Re: Terraria on Stadia cancelled after developer's Google account gets locked

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Post by ceejayoz »

bargl wrote: post #781
ceejayoz wrote: post #751

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"Regulation" also gave us things like a rapid reduction of deaths in cars ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_vehicle_fatality_rate_in... ) and airliners ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aviation_safety#/media/File:Fa... ), and it's hardly illegal to start a Google competitor. "Competition" isn't a cure-all any more than "regulation" is. Google got big because they competed well with the alternatives at the time.

And yet, we're static in that most of our crash tests are done the same way they have for years. They haven't started testing cars crashing at 60+ miles per hour. So while these regulations are great, it's also competition that's caused us to get better safety in some ways. Long story short, we need both, but we also need to figure out how to keep regulations moving forward instead of stagnating.

Is "survive a 60mph crash" really the best goal?

We've made cars quite safe in this regard; I suspect there's more wiggle room to drop deaths with crash avoidance at this point. Backup cameras (now mandated by regulation), pedestrian detection, automatic breaking, lane change warnings, etc.

Re: Terraria on Stadia cancelled after developer's Google account gets locked

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Post by throwaway0a5e »

bargl wrote: post #781
ceejayoz wrote: post #751

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"Regulation" also gave us things like a rapid reduction of deaths in cars ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_vehicle_fatality_rate_in... ) and airliners ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aviation_safety#/media/File:Fa... ), and it's hardly illegal to start a Google competitor. "Competition" isn't a cure-all any more than "regulation" is. Google got big because they competed well with the alternatives at the time.

And yet, we're static in that most of our crash tests are done the same way they have for years. They haven't started testing cars crashing at 60+ miles per hour. So while these regulations are great, it's also competition that's caused us to get better safety in some ways. Long story short, we need both, but we also need to figure out how to keep regulations moving forward instead of stagnating.

>And yet, we're static in that most of our crash tests are done the same way they have for years

Exactly.

Modern cars are optimized for "the tests" occasionally to the point of absurdity. As in certain systems get de-tuned (so to speak) so they are completely and totally used up at whatever the max test speed is because that's what makes the car look best in the benchmarks.

If we modernized the tests high speed crashes would be more survivable and low speed crashes would be less costly.

It's not all government's fault though. Society has a very unhealthy relationship with risk. If you make a quip about how crumple zones shouldn't be tuned to activate in parking lot collisions you are instantly inundated with idiots that don't understand that a stiff neck in a 10mph hit could be what makes a 60mph hit survivable at all.

Re: Terraria on Stadia cancelled after developer's Google account gets locked

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Post by ycombigator »

Swizec wrote: post #773
sethammons wrote: post #725

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Why is it "intense verification?" What is a good alternative? I lost access to my blizzard account once and I had to send in my driver's license.

Because Facebook is not a government institution. My legal identity is no concern of theirs. You can do a lot of stuff at the bank, with your doctor, etc without ever having to show your state ID. What is facebook doing that’s so very serious they’d need it? (not OP but I use a consistent nom de plume online)

Profiling you to increase revenue.

Re: Terraria on Stadia cancelled after developer's Google account gets locked

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Post by aeturnum »

eldavido wrote: post #798
aeturnum wrote: post #788

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I think your critiques of regulation are fair, but I think regulation and competition are closer together than your post suggests. >Ordinary people like you don't have access to these meetings and by and large don't participate. Ordinary people have less access to companies' internal strategy meetings and, like government, companies will choose to favor their most lucrative clients over the strategy that outsiders mi…

Great comment. They probably are closer than I originally said. I totally agree on your point about professionalization. There might be a legitimate public benefit angle to it. But if you look hard enough, the distinction between a regulated profession (which ostensibly exists for public benefit) vs a union (which exists to advance its members interests) is fairly thin. Since it is easier to track outcomes directly,…

I agree with you about the potential that we're at the end of usefulness for our current system of professionalization. It's easy to forget how recently we've developed technology to cheaply distribute information about the past performance of individuals.

I think the key ingredient we'd need to do away with the organizations is have some strong form of identification that's safe to share publicly. Like, right now the bar association (or whoever) can check that you are who you claim to be and haven't assumed an identity. Having people get public / private key pairs from the government (or whatever) would do that as well, but we would need a system.

P.s. thank you for the compliment!

Re: Terraria on Stadia cancelled after developer's Google account gets locked

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Post by gowld »

295310e0 wrote: post #785
ryandrake wrote: post #639

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> Same thing if Google was to ban my gmail today, I'd lose SO MUCH and worse is my photos, all my logins, etc. Their "loss" on me could be devastating to my life and not even a blip on their radar. Just curious, why would you accept this risk? Even though the probability of losing your account is small, the impact is huge. I'd recommend at least backups and your own domain for an E-mail address (even if you just have…

>... your own domain for an E-mail address (even if you just have Gmail continue to host the email). I have considered this, but converting is not risk free. Say I utilize my own domain backed by Gmail. I have increased my surface area by being reliant upon both Google and the security of my domain registrar. Perl.com was just stolen[0] due to some shenanigans -how I would I keep myself immune? My fear with using my…

Perl.com is worth stealing via a targeted attack. Yourboringname.com is not.

Banks use 2FA so stealing your email won't steal your account.

Anyway, you can appeal to the registrar and IANA for help if your registration is attacked.

Re: Terraria on Stadia cancelled after developer's Google account gets locked

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Post by throwaway0a5e »

ck425 wrote: post #775
eldavido wrote: post #735

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No! What we need is competition and choice to ensure companies are responsive to what people want. I can't, for the life of me, understand why people think "regulation" will magic away all our problems. Here's what happens: a lengthy political process results in a bunch of laws getting passed. The large companies who have enough skin in the game to care send their lobbyists, who ensure the outcome of the process does…

"Regulation" gave us the end of Slavery. "Regulation" gave us the end of child labour. "Regulation" gave us a 5 day work week. "Regulation" gave us a reasonable number of holidays (in Europe atleast). Regulation isn't fundamentally bad. Nor does is need to be controlled by lobbyists and big business. Your points against regulation aren't against "Regulation", they're against bad regulation. The response to bad regula…

With the arguable exception of slavery, social change gave us all those things. Regulation was just the part where we coerced the hold-outs to do as we wanted under threat of violence. Regulation in a democracy always lags social change.

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Post by malinens »

robotresearcher wrote: post #669
jennyyang wrote: post #658

We need regulations to enforce adequate customer service and SLAs in these huge companies. Google is getting away with this behavior because of their monopolistic behavior. If they had competition, they would be spending billions on customer support, but because they have a monopoly, they can get away with having virtually none. This is their way of saving money and taking advantage of their monopoly. It's a shadow v…

For counterpoint, they provide products like Gmail for free at point of use because the support costs are very low (amongst other factors). Would you prefer government change this balance by regulation, or let users decide what they want? Many users choose very cheap typical service with a small but real risk of misery. Perhaps it's because they don't understand how miserable it can get. It's important that the bad e…

Actually their support in gmail is non-existing. I work for European regional free e-mail provider (also ad supported) and we have free phone support for free users where You can talk to real support people who know product in 5 different languages. Google abuses it's dominant power by making basically impossible to get support
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