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Free, Worldwide, Encrypted Phone Calls for iPhone

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Re: Free, Worldwide, Encrypted Phone Calls for iPhone

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Post by tedunangst »

gecko wrote: post #13
[deleted] wrote: post #6

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Is there any way you can substantiate any of this? I wouldn't be shocked, but it seems borderline implausible that we'd be getting all this interest in various ways to hack into iPhones physically if you could just dial a number--and I think it also goes without saying that, whether Apple provides official backdoors or no, it has a high interest in ensuring that there aren't any unofficial backdoors for many other re…

Stipulate that somebody has an exploit for libjpeg, and that's probably enough to own a phone by texting them. That said, with a libjpeg exploit, there's a lot more fun one can have.

Re: Free, Worldwide, Encrypted Phone Calls for iPhone

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Post by tedunangst »

dm2 wrote: post #71

I wish they had text messaging. I've been waiting so long for this and it lacks the major feature we need! Hopefully it'll come soon. The reason why this is important these days is that law enforcement now has more access (because the technology is cheaper) to fake cell towers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stingray_phone_tracker Many states are denying FOIA requests regarding this spying but there are several news sto…

Can a Stingray intercept iMessages?

Re: Free, Worldwide, Encrypted Phone Calls for iPhone

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Post by [deleted] »

mikevm wrote: post #75
Bud wrote: post #68

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Apparently they're not that secretive, since you know about their internal tech, and you didn't work there and didn't even have an interview. Pardon me for saying so, but your original comment and your responses to various requests for substantiation don't pass the bullshit test. I'm not saying you are wrong, but I am saying you haven't remotely proven your claims to this audience.

Ok, then don't believe me. I'm just going to move on now.

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Re: Free, Worldwide, Encrypted Phone Calls for iPhone

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Post by dm2 »

tedunangst wrote: post #82
dm2 wrote: post #71

I wish they had text messaging. I've been waiting so long for this and it lacks the major feature we need! Hopefully it'll come soon. The reason why this is important these days is that law enforcement now has more access (because the technology is cheaper) to fake cell towers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stingray_phone_tracker Many states are denying FOIA requests regarding this spying but there are several news sto…

Can a Stingray intercept iMessages?

I'm not sure, I doubt it, but that doesn't mean there aren't other ways to intercept them.

iOS still sends normal text messages to any device that isn't iOS. I use an Android device for the most part and almost everyone I know uses iOS, which means that even if I'm using TextSecure the message will be delivered as a normal text message, which certainly can be intercepted and stored by Stingray and similar devices.

Re: Free, Worldwide, Encrypted Phone Calls for iPhone

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Post by carbocation »

halon wrote: post #69
carbocation wrote: post #38

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I also am not receiving the SMS validation code. I'll update when I get (or don't get) the promised phone call (which comes ~4m after they think they sent the SMS). I suspect they're just overloaded by the HN spike. Edit : The app called, offered me a code which was rejected, and refuses to Re-call me because "rate limit exceeded."

You will have the opportunity to request another call in about 15 minutes

Thanks! That worked. Messaging suggestion for future version: set a countdown timer for when they can request another call.

Re: Free, Worldwide, Encrypted Phone Calls for iPhone

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Post by [deleted] »

rdl wrote: post #46

Why is the App Store application search process so horrible? I agree, "Signal" and "Whisper" are bad things to have to search for, but there's basically no way to enter a simple memorable text string in the store and get the right app. I ended up using a browser on the phone to go to the HN article to go to the right app store link. I can't believe this hasn't been solved.

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Re: Free, Worldwide, Encrypted Phone Calls for iPhone

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Post by alcari »

lifeisstillgood wrote: post #78
Finster wrote: post #67

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Except, of course, everybody on the deep web.

I'm fascinated by this idea of a deep web only accessible by the cognoscenti. Presumably if a link slips out then the deep web becomes a lot shallower?

Not necessarily, because things like robots.txt will still prevent it from ending up in search engine results.

Re: Free, Worldwide, Encrypted Phone Calls for iPhone

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Post by dm2 »

FredericJ wrote: post #79

Hey, I'm the co-lead developer of Signal. We're looking for help with translations, help us out to bring Signal to as many people as possible: https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/signal-ios/ We also pay per commit if you want to help on Open Whisper Systems projects: http://bithub.whispersystems.org/

These seem like incredibly generous payments for such small commits...

https://github.com/WhisperSystems/whispersystems.org/commit/...

https://github.com/WhisperSystems/whispersystems.org/commit/...

https://github.com/WhisperSystems/whispersystems.org/commit/...

I was going to donate today, but it seems like the donations are being wasted. I work hard for my money and if my donations go towards a trivial (and arguably unnecessary) 2 line CSS change that would really piss me off.

Can we donate only to certain apps? I want to see TextSecure for iOS out as soon as possible, I couldn't care less about CSS changes on your website or escaping some readme file.

Re: Free, Worldwide, Encrypted Phone Calls for iPhone

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Post by rsync »

nnnnni wrote: post #10
[deleted] wrote: post #6

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We're going to need verifiable sources for claims like that.

"We're going to need verifiable sources for claims like that."

This entire parent+thread argument back and forth is completely absurd.

It doesn't matter whether he has sources. It doesn't matter whether that firm does or does not exist. It doesn't matter what you think of their tech or his explanation or who is who or what is what.

Your phone has two[1] completely independent, full-featured computers inside of it, totally distinct from the actual computer that is your phone (that you use) that are completely out of your control, and depending on the model, have up to DMA control over your device.

Whisper systems does not solve this. SecurePhoneBlahBlah does not solve this. Moxie Marlinspike does not solve this. If you have a smartphone, you are owned at a deeper level than you've ever been owned before and there is nothing you can do about it other than removing your SIM card. Game over.

[1] The baseband processor and the SIM chip itself.

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