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Free, Worldwide, Encrypted Phone Calls for iPhone

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Re: Free, Worldwide, Encrypted Phone Calls for iPhone

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Post by dm2 »

I wish they had text messaging. I've been waiting so long for this and it lacks the major feature we need! Hopefully it'll come soon.

The reason why this is important these days is that law enforcement now has more access (because the technology is cheaper) to fake cell towers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stingray_phone_tracker

Many states are denying FOIA requests regarding this spying but there are several news stories from this year of data obtained from these fake "towers" being used in court. They can be put in vans or just be near people or be used at any large gathering of people.

I used an Android phone with RedPhone and this Signal app with iOS and it works perfectly. Very well done! Need encrypted text messaging ASAP!

They are also saying TextSecure and RedPhone will be merged into Signal. That'll be great!

I will gladly donate to this company if they will increase the speed of development.

Question: If my phone has a limited amount of minutes and I have RedPhone or Signal and I call someones phone who doesn't have one of these programs, does that use my minutes or does it only use Data (or WiFi)?

Re: Free, Worldwide, Encrypted Phone Calls for iPhone

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Post by nardi »

bdesimone wrote: post #50
nardi wrote: post #4

Um. Isn't encrypted calling on iPhones already provided by FaceTime Audio?

Yes. And you should probably assume that their claims of end-to-end encryption are about as solid as they were for iMessage. http://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2013/06/can-apple-re... http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/06/can-apple-read-your-... http://www.zdnet.com/apples-imessage-encryption-claims-refut...

Didn't Apple debunk that debunking themselves in February, when they released the iOS Security doc? [1]

According to Apple, each device's private key is generated locally and never leaves the device, making it impossible to MITM your messages.

From page 20: "For each key pair, the private keys are saved in the device’s keychain and the public keys are sent to Apple’s directory service (IDS), where they are associated with the user’s phone number or email address, along with the device’s APNs address."

[1] http://images.apple.com/iphone/business/docs/iOS_Security_Fe...

Re: Free, Worldwide, Encrypted Phone Calls for iPhone

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Post by happyscrappy »

eliteraspberrie wrote: post #45

It would be nice if the server software were open source as well. Call routing information, like all metadata, can only be protected legally not cryptographically. So it's not something I trust to people outside Canada, no matter how much esteem I have for them.

You realize that Canada is part of the evil five eyes.

Re: Free, Worldwide, Encrypted Phone Calls for iPhone

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Post by gioi »

dm2 wrote: post #71

I wish they had text messaging. I've been waiting so long for this and it lacks the major feature we need! Hopefully it'll come soon. The reason why this is important these days is that law enforcement now has more access (because the technology is cheaper) to fake cell towers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stingray_phone_tracker Many states are denying FOIA requests regarding this spying but there are several news sto…

    Later this summer, Signal for iPhone will be expanded to support text communication compatible with TextSecure for Android.
You'll have to wait to wait a little. I'd bet it will be worth.

Re: Free, Worldwide, Encrypted Phone Calls for iPhone

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Post by mikevm »

Bud wrote: post #68
[deleted] wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[deleted]

Apparently they're not that secretive, since you know about their internal tech, and you didn't work there and didn't even have an interview. Pardon me for saying so, but your original comment and your responses to various requests for substantiation don't pass the bullshit test. I'm not saying you are wrong, but I am saying you haven't remotely proven your claims to this audience.

Ok, then don't believe me. I'm just going to move on now.

Re: Free, Worldwide, Encrypted Phone Calls for iPhone

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Post by lasermike026 »

frequentflyeru wrote: post #40

Next round of Edward Snowden leaks: "NSA created and funded 'open whisper systems' as a way to get people to think their calls were encrypted when in reality calls went straight to the NSA..."

Open Whisper Systems is fund by the Shuttleworth Foundation.

https://www.shuttleworthfoundation.org/about-us/team/

Re: Free, Worldwide, Encrypted Phone Calls for iPhone

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Post by lifeisstillgood »

Finster wrote: post #67
johnm1019 wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No one hides from google http://www.haaretz.com/business/economy-finance/1.574805

Except, of course, everybody on the deep web.

I'm fascinated by this idea of a deep web only accessible by the cognoscenti. Presumably if a link slips out then the deep web becomes a lot shallower?

Re: Free, Worldwide, Encrypted Phone Calls for iPhone

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Post by FredericJ »

Hey, I'm the co-lead developer of Signal. We're looking for help with translations, help us out to bring Signal to as many people as possible: https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/signal-ios/ We also pay per commit if you want to help on Open Whisper Systems projects: http://bithub.whispersystems.org/

Re: Free, Worldwide, Encrypted Phone Calls for iPhone

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Post by opendais »

[deleted] wrote: post #6
david_shaw wrote: post #2

Many people are already familiar with Moxie Marlinspike's WhisperSystems because of their Android apps: RedPhone for encrypted calls, and TextSecure for SMS messages. The release of Signal is a pretty big deal for iOS users; previously, we had to consider a paid option like Silent Circle, or a larger corporate option like FaceTime Audio (which isn't really the same). Although I haven't actually used the app yet (it's…

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To be fair, the stuff you are talking about is targeted malware. The odds of people being actively targeted rather than passively surveilled is orders of magnitude in difference.

Everyone is being passively watched at some level, even if it is just for billing purposes.

Defense is always about defense in depth. Always.

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