I wonder if the amount of ridicule correlates with the fact that the author is a woman?
What It's Like To Be Ridiculed For Open Sourcing A Project
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#82What the fuck. (And I rarely say that word.) We've got to grow up. This is 9th grade all over again. You know, those weird people that do things that you don't understand? They're the ones that grow up and make big impacts on the world. Why can't we get over our negativity? We can't stop ourselves from thinking horrible things, or even saying them out loud to people around us, but surely we can restrain ourselves fro…
I wouldn't be at all surprised if there was a strong undercurrent of misogyny involved here, motivating their incivility and rudeness.
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#84There exist two types of people: 1. "Hur hur, sed piped with other tools already does this, you loser, why did you waste your time?" 2. "Cool, a different take on sed written in Javascript. They've written some basic doco and made a npm package, I might try it." Ignore #1 online and in-person, be friends with #2. People who adhere to type 1 behaviour are alien to me. I fundamentally don't understand what their motiva…
I think you've excluded the middle here, (#1.5 perhaps) one who thinks that your code is worthless/dangerous and does not call you a loser. It can be true that a piece of software is a poor replacement for an existing tool. It can be true that recommending it as a replacement for that tool is dangerous. You can make these judgements about a piece of software without an incident like this happening. What's important h…
I'm in the #1.5 category probably.
_But_ it is all about how it is written. Criticism is good when it is constructive, otherwise it is not far from just name calling, badgering and spewing of hate.
Other ways to respond could be "That's a cool idea. I like to use sed" or "checkout my python one-liner".
All those things you highlighted could be true, but that's still not a reason to offend someone.
It depends on who the author is:
* If an 8 year old wrote that, that would awesome and she would become an overnight internet celebrity.
* A Linus Torvalds wrote that -- everyone would become very worried that he is smoking something.
* Someone who is just learning to program -- it is awesome and they should be encouraged to do more of it
* A seasoned programmer -- they should still be encouraged but criticism should be more pronounced "Cool but sed usually works better, were you thinking of some specific feature?".
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#85Developer elitism at it again. The dev community really needs to lose this trait.
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#86There exist two types of people: 1. "Hur hur, sed piped with other tools already does this, you loser, why did you waste your time?" 2. "Cool, a different take on sed written in Javascript. They've written some basic doco and made a npm package, I might try it." Ignore #1 online and in-person, be friends with #2. People who adhere to type 1 behaviour are alien to me. I fundamentally don't understand what their motiva…
>Again, ignore #1, friend #2.
"Forget the insults you receive and remember the compliments. And if you figure out how to do that, let me know"
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#87> Then I see these people’s follower count, and I sob > harder. I can’t help but think of potential future > employers that are no longer potential. My name and > avatar are part of its identity, and it’s just one step > for a slightly curious person to see the idiot behind > this code. Oh come on now. Potential employers are not going to be crawling through your github on the off chance they can find a hastily-writt…
> Oh come on now. Potential employers are not going to > be crawling through your github on the off chance they > can find a hastily-written script to laugh at No, they won't, but they do sometimes hire something new and worse than Checklist HR folks, Social Media for HR Researchers. At some point someone is going to hit an automated connection between "Heroes" and negative comments on other's work. It actually sound…
The funny thing about companies with arbitrary automated no-hire filters in their hiring pipeline is that they tend to be places such a programmer wouldn't want to work at anyway.
Say there's some HR department out there silently dropping any candidate that doesn't have a LiveJournal account. Would you worry? Would you even care?
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#88For years I have been terrified about putting my code on Github for fear of rage and retribution from the programmer community. This is a real problem for us amateur coders who enjoy hacking but don't necessarily have the chops to go head-to-head with the serious guys.
As soon as I put some of my code up on Github I started to worry that someone might actually find it. It can be a bit intimidating. I can only imagine what'll happen once I learn to contribute to something.
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#89I've been following 2 of the 3 guys in that twitter conversation for several years. The first thing I can say is that they both are big parts of the ruby community and generally represent it well.
With that said, this exchange really upsets me. I've noticed that there is definitely a sense of elitism among the guys that speak at many of the ruby conferences. I think a situation like this is simply a case of them forgetting that Twitter is public and that their personal message board isn't so personal after all.
Guys, this is bullying and it's fucking pathetic. It's not the first time, but it needs to be the last. I've at least seen Cory talk and the guy is definitely one of the good guys, but this puts him in really bad light. How much more effort would it have been to post a defect to the github account and informing of the issues?
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#90The truth is that there are a whole bunch of morons out there with petty little opinions and with no real achievements of themselves. They call the people Trolls (with a capital T). Ignore them.