In some way they are telling that they respect your privacy. Or they have your data (and then do something with it, now or later), or no one will. They could provide some Google-style takeout to get your data before deletion, but that may not have any meaning or practical use without their devices and software.
Samsung Health app threatens data deletion if users opt out AI training
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#82shouldn't this get them turbo obliterated in europe?
no, in fact gdpr requires that they get consent before they process the data. They are not preventing people from accessing the data, only indefinite storage as i understand. They may claim that storage is needed for the processing (which might make sense, they want to train on the whole time series).
I don't think they have any chance of surviving regulator looking at it. Of course regulators never do it unprompted.
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#83I'd doubt this is legal under HIPAA law in the US, but good luck
It certainly is. HIPAA binds healthcare providers and those entities who get data from them. Samsung is not bound by either of these, unless it is sourcing the health information from, like, your doctor, and not from your watch.
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#86I use Sparky Fitness for all my fitness / health tracking. So, so happy I have everything stored locally, where I can do whatever I want with the data, and I know it's mine and it's private. Very easily to interface with your favorite llm of choice. https://github.com/CodeWithCJ/SparkyFitness/
Ummm once you give your data to an LLM it's no longer private.
a. completely optional/disable-able and
b. Self hosted llm friendly, with specific instructions given on how to use it with things like Ollama
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#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
I had a ~2008 vintage Samsung phone with a fingerprint sensor that gave your blood oxygen level (SpO2). One day it told me something similar, I had to agree to send them data or I couldn’t use it. So I never used it again, but yeah they have been abusing their costumers a long time. This is they same company whose tvs take pictures of what you are watching and send them back to Samsung.
Every TV does that unfortunately. It's called automatic content recognition but every manufacturer has a different euphemism for it. It's definitely not just Samsung. As bad as this is. The problem is bigger than just them.
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#88> The company plans to grab four categories: your sleep, your medications, your medical records, and your cycle tracking details So you buy a device but you can't effectively use half of its features because you'd also have to agree to send them your medical records? Ok then if I refuse, will they refund 50% of the device price since now it's not usable any more?
I had a ~2008 vintage Samsung phone with a fingerprint sensor that gave your blood oxygen level (SpO2). One day it told me something similar, I had to agree to send them data or I couldn’t use it. So I never used it again, but yeah they have been abusing their costumers a long time. This is they same company whose tvs take pictures of what you are watching and send them back to Samsung.
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#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
Every TV does that unfortunately. It's called automatic content recognition but every manufacturer has a different euphemism for it. It's definitely not just Samsung. As bad as this is. The problem is bigger than just them.
I have a projector that I just leave off the network. Do TVs require a network connection now? What happens when they don't have one?
Annoying but not a huge deal. I imagine this will slowly get worse as more people learn to not connect it to WiFi.
Also of course all the smart tv features don’t work, and a lot more folks than I ever imagined actually use the built in controller (usually some form of Android or Roku) to watch Netflix and whatnot. And a lot of folks actually do watch the built in TV “channels” a lot of vendors ship with.
It seems very few people buy an additional device like an Apple TV or Nvidia Shield.