I mean, Gemini does the same: if you want the history of your chats, there's no way to opt out from the AI training..
Samsung Health app threatens data deletion if users opt out AI training
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Re: Samsung Health app threatens data deletion if users opt out AI training
#72> The company plans to grab four categories: your sleep, your medications, your medical records, and your cycle tracking details So you buy a device but you can't effectively use half of its features because you'd also have to agree to send them your medical records? Ok then if I refuse, will they refund 50% of the device price since now it's not usable any more?
Also, doesn't them having your medical records subject them to laws like HIPAA? I would think so even if they aren't a medical institution.
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#73I use Sparky Fitness for all my fitness / health tracking.
So, so happy I have everything stored locally, where I can do whatever I want with the data, and I know it's mine and it's private.
Very easily to interface with your favorite llm of choice.
https://github.com/CodeWithCJ/SparkyFitness/
Re: Samsung Health app threatens data deletion if users opt out AI training
#74Samsung has been banned from my choices. There are many brands to choose from.
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#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I really feel like "grab" is quite condescending By all means, let's use a more appropriate term, like "abuse" or "misappropriate". It's not sufficiently condescending for a company that's trying to train AI on people's private health data.
Do you think those services are “free”? If you want cloud storage and syncing, it comes at a price. If you’re not paying with money, you’re paying with your privacy and freedom.
I think syncing kilobytes costs next to nothing and if they can't manage it then let me put in my own URL and I'll host it myself.
(And "my own URL" realistically includes Google and Dropbox and OneDrive and iCloud, not just nerd stuff. And even without automatic backups it should hold on to everything and give me an export button.)
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Re: Samsung Health app threatens data deletion if users opt out AI training
#77your step count is now a training data point. next they'll hold your resting heart rate hostage until you agree to let the AI analyze your grocery receipts.
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#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
I had a ~2008 vintage Samsung phone with a fingerprint sensor that gave your blood oxygen level (SpO2). One day it told me something similar, I had to agree to send them data or I couldn’t use it. So I never used it again, but yeah they have been abusing their costumers a long time. This is they same company whose tvs take pictures of what you are watching and send them back to Samsung.
Every TV does that unfortunately. It's called automatic content recognition but every manufacturer has a different euphemism for it. It's definitely not just Samsung. As bad as this is. The problem is bigger than just them.
Every TV might do this, not every single one does. Buy TVs which allow you to opt out (at least in one case it was several opt-ins, no opt out per SE).
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#79This actually seems kinda OK. Consent to train is payment for hosting that data. Find another health app/service with more preferable terms if you don't like it. My only beef is if they do an immediate delete without providing a reasonable method for users to export that data first, which is how it reads.
> Find another health app/service with more preferable terms if you don't like it
It never ceases to amaze me how many people defend the Darth Vader style of buying a product: "I am altering the deal; pray I don't alter it any further"
I assume it must be rooted in the just-world fallacy: "Clearly anyone affected must not have been careful enough or did something else wrong. Since I'm careful with my purchases, negative consequences couldn't happen to me."
Related reading: https://blog.codinghorror.com/they-have-to-be-monsters/
Re: Samsung Health app threatens data deletion if users opt out AI training
#80I use Sparky Fitness for all my fitness / health tracking. So, so happy I have everything stored locally, where I can do whatever I want with the data, and I know it's mine and it's private. Very easily to interface with your favorite llm of choice. https://github.com/CodeWithCJ/SparkyFitness/
Ummm once you give your data to an LLM it's no longer private.