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From brain waves to words: a new path to communication without surgery

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Re: From brain waves to words: a new path to communication without surgery

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Post by rcxdude »

smusamashah wrote: post #58
consumer451 wrote: post #57

Please see my bio for the full rant. The key take-away is: > While we missed the boat on Internet tracking, there is still time to avoid sailing through the final frontier of neural tracking. > Thanks to the BCI, we will soon be offered the trade of our privacy for the convenience of password-free login and faster typing. Next, there will be a quick TSA neural scan prior to boarding...

This is the most pessimistic take on this tech here. You can view anything with the same lens.

You should probably view anything meta does through the same lens. They can make great tech but they utterly ruin it with their creepiness.

Re: From brain waves to words: a new path to communication without surgery

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Post by plastic-enjoyer »

consumer451 wrote: post #57

Please see my bio for the full rant. The key take-away is: > While we missed the boat on Internet tracking, there is still time to avoid sailing through the final frontier of neural tracking. > Thanks to the BCI, we will soon be offered the trade of our privacy for the convenience of password-free login and faster typing. Next, there will be a quick TSA neural scan prior to boarding...

While I share your privacy concerns, one should also ask how realistic such a scenario is with non-invasive BCIs due to their limited nature. It does not mean that neural tracking isn't possible with this technology, however, I would question if this technology is feasible for consumer products and wide adaptation.

Re: From brain waves to words: a new path to communication without surgery

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Post by celltalk »

As far as I understand the underlying model is not multimodal. Maybe a quite naive question but can't we improve the performance by a joint embedding of EEG and MEG data? If it scales with log-linear data, maybe it would also improve with other data as well.

Re: From brain waves to words: a new path to communication without surgery

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Post by otikik »

smusamashah wrote: post #58
consumer451 wrote: post #57

Please see my bio for the full rant. The key take-away is: > While we missed the boat on Internet tracking, there is still time to avoid sailing through the final frontier of neural tracking. > Thanks to the BCI, we will soon be offered the trade of our privacy for the convenience of password-free login and faster typing. Next, there will be a quick TSA neural scan prior to boarding...

This is the most pessimistic take on this tech here. You can view anything with the same lens.

I agree in that it is pessimistic. I strongly doubt it is the most pessimistic take.

Re: From brain waves to words: a new path to communication without surgery

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Post by Honali »

celltalk wrote: post #83

As far as I understand the underlying model is not multimodal. Maybe a quite naive question but can't we improve the performance by a joint embedding of EEG and MEG data? If it scales with log-linear data, maybe it would also improve with other data as well.

My guess is that multimodal training could be useful as a pretraining strategy

Re: From brain waves to words: a new path to communication without surgery

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Post by Honali »

alexpotato wrote: post #20

So attended an interesting talk a couple years ago: - fMRI and/or brain implants are the best to figure out brain waves - but they are expensive or invasive - EEG is a lot cheaper and easier but not as precise - BUT what if you used LLMs to analyze EEG data taken at the same time as brain implants etc The answer seemed to be that "yes, you can get better than traditional EEG data using EEG + LLMs". Curious to see whe…

If these systems ever become good enough to be useful, the privacy and consent questions need to be treated as core engineering requirements, not as a policy afterthought
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