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From brain waves to words: a new path to communication without surgery

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Re: From brain waves to words: a new path to communication without surgery

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If one were to go about translating brain waves from dogs to meaning, we'd run into a big problem immediately: vocabulary resolution. What I mean by that is we'll have a very limited number of words to which a dog's brainwaves can be translated to since we aren't able to understand them beyond their basic instincts of food, survival, fear, affection towards their owner etc. There is just no way to go past what we hav…

>There is just no way to go past what we have already observed by their behavior since dogs can't talk or write. There are many dogs that have been trained to press buttons corresponding to words, in the extreme case tens/hundreds of buttons/words, and they can even construct rudimentary sentences. It doesn't seem insane to me that we could perhaps do a very rudimentary version of this for dogs, given a large enough…

but that's imposing our language on them, when we should be understanding them

there's a movie about that default human hubris, it spoils it though

Re: From brain waves to words: a new path to communication without surgery

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[stub for offtopicness] p.s. come on you guys - this is not what HN is for. You may not owe $megacorp better but you owe this community better if you're participating here.

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Imagine the shareholder value if he could just beam ads directly in to your brain.

Re: From brain waves to words: a new path to communication without surgery

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I still think of this video often and wonder if it is building on any of that technology, almost 10 years old now. Just looking at this whitepaper it seems like they both use some kind of infrared transcranial light, but never imagined the machine in the original iteration was so big [Regina Dugan's Keynote at Facebook F8 2017 | Inverse] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCDWKdmwhUI

Re: From brain waves to words: a new path to communication without surgery

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Please see my bio for the full rant. The key take-away is:

> While we missed the boat on Internet tracking, there is still time to avoid sailing through the final frontier of neural tracking.

> Thanks to the BCI, we will soon be offered the trade of our privacy for the convenience of password-free login and faster typing. Next, there will be a quick TSA neural scan prior to boarding...

Re: From brain waves to words: a new path to communication without surgery

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Please see my bio for the full rant. The key take-away is: > While we missed the boat on Internet tracking, there is still time to avoid sailing through the final frontier of neural tracking. > Thanks to the BCI, we will soon be offered the trade of our privacy for the convenience of password-free login and faster typing. Next, there will be a quick TSA neural scan prior to boarding...

This is the most pessimistic take on this tech here. You can view anything with the same lens.

Re: From brain waves to words: a new path to communication without surgery

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Please see my bio for the full rant. The key take-away is: > While we missed the boat on Internet tracking, there is still time to avoid sailing through the final frontier of neural tracking. > Thanks to the BCI, we will soon be offered the trade of our privacy for the convenience of password-free login and faster typing. Next, there will be a quick TSA neural scan prior to boarding...

This is the most pessimistic take on this tech here. You can view anything with the same lens.

Saying "this is the most pessimistic take" doesn't make for good discussion.

Something can have "good takes" but still run an unacceptable risk of ending badly

Re: From brain waves to words: a new path to communication without surgery

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Please see my bio for the full rant. The key take-away is: > While we missed the boat on Internet tracking, there is still time to avoid sailing through the final frontier of neural tracking. > Thanks to the BCI, we will soon be offered the trade of our privacy for the convenience of password-free login and faster typing. Next, there will be a quick TSA neural scan prior to boarding...

This is the most pessimistic take on this tech here. You can view anything with the same lens.

I ain't young. I have seen this all play out before. It's just extrapolating based on what we did with cookies, browsing history, cell tower data, etc... unless we pass very strict neural privacy laws, why wouldn't it go the same way?

The decent news is that if you search "neural privacy laws," you will find some states are already on top of it, a bit. We need national laws, in every country ASAP. This needs to happen before there are billions in economic inertia behind BCIs.

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