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Re: John Jumper to join Anthropic

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Post by argee »

make3 wrote: post #75
abraxas wrote: post #26

Something seems afoot at Google. The real tell will be if Demis makes a move. Jeff Dean seems more like a lifer to me.

I just think that people are running to pre IPO Anthropic to make bank. It also feels like Anthropic is the new Google though. They actually try to not be evil, and are actually at the frontier of new tech.

Google was famously undervalued at IPO, even relative to its value back then (that is, ignoring the wild upside that actualized). It’s likely not the new Google from a shareholder upside perspective, given the hype.

Re: John Jumper to join Anthropic

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Post by thesmtsolver2 »

make3 wrote: post #75
abraxas wrote: post #26

Something seems afoot at Google. The real tell will be if Demis makes a move. Jeff Dean seems more like a lifer to me.

I just think that people are running to pre IPO Anthropic to make bank. It also feels like Anthropic is the new Google though. They actually try to not be evil, and are actually at the frontier of new tech.

Was Google preventing other search engine developers from searching for resources?

Re: John Jumper to join Anthropic

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Post by [deleted] »

make3 wrote: post #75
abraxas wrote: post #26

Something seems afoot at Google. The real tell will be if Demis makes a move. Jeff Dean seems more like a lifer to me.

I just think that people are running to pre IPO Anthropic to make bank. It also feels like Anthropic is the new Google though. They actually try to not be evil, and are actually at the frontier of new tech.

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Re: John Jumper to join Anthropic

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Post by seydor »

lachlanj wrote: post #79
abraxas wrote: post #26

Something seems afoot at Google. The real tell will be if Demis makes a move. Jeff Dean seems more like a lifer to me.

Maybe this a a naive take but I see Demis as future Google CEO candidate. If AI is really the future, he is much better suited to lead the company.

The scientist who works at night and sleep at day? I don't think he s the managerial type

Re: John Jumper to join Anthropic

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Post by da_grift_shift »

thewebguyd wrote: post #56
WarmWash wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thing about Gemini is that it never chews on a problem. Claude and GPT will regularly churn on a prompt for 10-15 minutes. I don't think I have ever seen Gemini think for more than a 2 minutes. Google seems more interested in fast models that can quickly turn responses, which kind of fits with a company that needs to serve AI on a mass scale.

It also fits with ad delivery, if that is the route they are going to go with consumer (non-API usage) gemini. Their cash cow is still ads, and will likely remain ads they aren't suddenly going to be come a frontier lab selling access to a model. Fast answers, using their search as grounding, that can parse keywords and spit out a few ads is where Gemini Flash is going to head. That, and the agentic actions stuff the…

Ad delivery on consumer surfaces you say?

https://ads.openai.com/

https://openai.com/index/new-ways-to-buy-chatgpt-ads/

Re: John Jumper to join Anthropic

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Post by edg5000 »

seydor wrote: post #84
lachlanj wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe this a a naive take but I see Demis as future Google CEO candidate. If AI is really the future, he is much better suited to lead the company.

The scientist who works at night and sleep at day? I don't think he s the managerial type

Famously Mao was like that as well.

Re: John Jumper to join Anthropic

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Post by enos_feedler »

make3 wrote: post #75
abraxas wrote: post #26

Something seems afoot at Google. The real tell will be if Demis makes a move. Jeff Dean seems more like a lifer to me.

I just think that people are running to pre IPO Anthropic to make bank. It also feels like Anthropic is the new Google though. They actually try to not be evil, and are actually at the frontier of new tech.

I mean, just saying the new guy is trying not to be evil does not give any credence to some meaningful differentiation over the long term. Won't they just eventually be evil too? Seems odd to continue to trust the early thinking of long term companies. Haven't we been burned enough?

Re: John Jumper to join Anthropic

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Post by pbgcp2026 »

kranke155 wrote: post #7
CuriouslyC wrote: post #6

Something spicy must have happened internally at Google. This rapid fire high level attrition isn't just down to the bureaucratic quagmire.

Is it possible they are just falling behind ? Their newest model wasn’t really SOTA. And honestly fable 5 was the most human like model I’d ever tried. It was an incredible jump. And recently lots of Claude users at r/ClaudeAI are noticing Opus 4.8 has really increased in capability. Not new things but maybe redirected compute. It just feels like one of the best models ever, maybe because the compute that was previou…

"fable 5 was the most human like model" I am laughing. There is simply no other model as good as Gemini 3.0 Pro. 2.5 was fine. 3.1 is Ok. 3.0 was a masterpiece. Compared to Opus 4.5. (yes, both got killed to prioritise "coding monkey assistants".)
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