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FCC wants to kill burner phones by forcing telecoms to get all customers' IDs

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Re: FCC wants to kill burner phones by forcing telecoms to get all customers' IDs

#82

No more anonymous driving, thanks to Flock. Soon, no more anonymous calls, thanks to the FCC. Your bank already knows everything about you; why not your operating system, too? Soon your ISP will only let you online if your OS sends them the "right" information: your government ID. We should also abolish cash while we're at it. The government needs to know every purchase you've ever made, no exceptions. Of course, the…

> We should also abolish cash while we're at it.

Why do you think all the rich people (and by extension the oligarchy running this country) are pushing Crypto?

Re: FCC wants to kill burner phones by forcing telecoms to get all customers' IDs

#83
post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well - it's not exactly a surprise that all these non-American countries engage in un-American practices. It's much more concerning when said practices are undertaken by the U.S. Just because other countries do something isn't a justification to bring the practice into the U.S. despite that being a justification used with increasing prevalence these days.

American exceptionalism was always a lie; name an “un-American” practice, and I'll show you a piece of American foreign policy.

A lie, or an ideal to try and live up to, depending on the context. In the context of discussing liberty-destroying privacy invasions it's an ideal, and we should not be so quick to dismiss it.

Re: FCC wants to kill burner phones by forcing telecoms to get all customers' IDs

#84
post #37

Maybe a way around this is for intermediary companies to own the phone that happens to have service and then lease the phone.

And with that suggestion, a clause is being added to close that loophole….

So it would be illegal to lend a phone to anyone, even just for one call?

Re: FCC wants to kill burner phones by forcing telecoms to get all customers' IDs

#85
Great. As if telecoms can be trusted with customers' id. AT&T left my name, address, social security etc in an improperly secured database for others to have, and they tried to open accounts with it; they had retained the information after I closed my account, and they denied the information was coming from them for years before they finally admitted it and gave us all a quarter to call someone who cares and a year of credit monitoring.

Re: FCC wants to kill burner phones by forcing telecoms to get all customers' IDs

#86

This is how it works in Australia, which means it's a pain for tourists as you need to provide a passport for ID and get it activated, as opposed to just grabbing one at an airport kiosk and being ready to go on your way to the taxi or train like most other places.

Has this changed recently? I thought I heard about this several years ago, but the last 2-3 times I've visited (in the last couple of years) I've been able to pick up a prepaid SIM from Colesworth without any ID check.

Re: FCC wants to kill burner phones by forcing telecoms to get all customers' IDs

#88

Here's the link to submit a comment to the FCC: https://www.fcc.gov/ecfs/filings/express Ran a quick search and found a whole bunch of news articles, but nobody includes info that makes it easy to route your comment. Feels like the beginning of Hitchhiker's Guide: > It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying Beware of the Leopard.

This is the specific proposed rule to reference: https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-seeks-comment-enhanced-know...

Re: FCC wants to kill burner phones by forcing telecoms to get all customers' IDs

#89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was a terrible scattered movie, but they want Elysium. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elysium_(film)

No, Elysium still had all the desperate poor people. That's not the end goal.

They want to scan your soul. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8v5HLLkgo5A

Re: FCC wants to kill burner phones by forcing telecoms to get all customers' IDs

#90

Isn’t this already a requirement? Can you really buy a burner phone/sim without providing identifying information?

I used to buy test phones for software testing at a bodega where they had a laundry basket full of phones, and they would sell prepaid SIMs no questions asked.
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