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'Fuck you, Bambu': How one private message could change the face of 3D printing

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Re: 'Fuck you, Bambu': How one private message could change the face of 3D printing

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Post by DoctorOetker »

fmobus wrote: post #79
DoctorOetker wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think more desirable would be to develop a FOSS server-side stack so people can self-host or use Western cloud alternatives. It's nice to have pinky promise that BambuLabs cloud service doesn't keep copies of your model files, potentially keeps track of print frequencies (is this a prototype or a finished design?), ... it's easy to assume they wouldn't know what that jig you designed for work is for, but if they co…

Western cloud alternatives might stumble upon other issue: western governments forcing said cloud providers to add filters to their pipelines. It might start as just a filter to prevent gun parts, but there's no reason it can't evolve into a filter that blocks you from making replacement parts for commercial products in general. Offline/LAN mode is, truly, the only solution.

hence the self-serving FOSS option

Re: 'Fuck you, Bambu': How one private message could change the face of 3D printing

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Post by VorpalWay »

BozeWolf wrote: post #80
VorpalWay wrote: post #68

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Mk3s is indeed great. I tend to swap nozzle often (different sizes, hardened vs brass) and the Nextruder makes that way easier. I also don't have a space where I can print overnight so the additional speed was extremely useful to me. The Mk3.9 probably isn't a price competitive upgrade though, today I would in your position probably look at selling the Mk3s for 100-200 EUR and buying a Core One instead. But if the Mk…

Thanks!! Speed indeed would be nice. Could go for 3.5 then. the enclosure looks better and keeps dust away from the buildplate. I think i will eventually go with core one then.

I'm not sure if a 3.5 will be as fast as a 3.9. You could enable printers you are interested in in the slicer and slice some typical models of yours.

Because of things like acceleration and flow limits the scaling isn't as simple as a constant factor but also depends on the geometry of the part (sharp corners lead to slowing down) and material (check max volumetric flow in your slicer, will likely be set way too low for your current filament profiles, especially if you switch to a high flow nozzle on the nextruder).

Re: 'Fuck you, Bambu': How one private message could change the face of 3D printing

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Post by iamnothere »

DoctorOetker wrote: post #74
altmanaltman wrote: post #59

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Asking what they should do is literally what they do. Law is not a commonsense topic where asking whaty they should do has any meaningful implications if you do not understanding the underlying theory and precendence which requires deep domain knowledge.

the concept of democracy is that everyone is entitled to opinions on what should or should not happen. its a basic distinction between descriptive and prescriptive statements or questions.

While this is true, increasingly we no longer live in a democracy, but rather a bureaucratic technocracy.

Re: 'Fuck you, Bambu': How one private message could change the face of 3D printing

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Post by kiba »

jogu wrote: post #70
kiba wrote: post #19

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I don't want to ask Prusa for permission.

Permission to do what exactly? Was there something before the OCL you could / were planning to do that the OCL now prohibits?

I don't know why it's so mysterious for you. It's not an open hardware platform and prusa is the gatekeeper here.

Re: 'Fuck you, Bambu': How one private message could change the face of 3D printing

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Post by the_af »

justinclift wrote: post #76
the_af wrote: post #34

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Extract rent how? Mandatory paid subscription? I cannot see the future but I believe this fear is unsubstantiated.

From the article: > Bambu might use its software to lock its printers to its own filament and accessories and start charging for subscription services, the way today’s inkjet printer companies do. Bambu did not deny those possibilities when we asked [...]

Today's inkjet printers charge mandatory subscriptions and lock you to their supplies? If so, much has changed since I owned one. I know they always scare you into buying their things, but never locked you into it. My HP laser (not inkjet) printer will happily accept third party toner cartridges.

Re: 'Fuck you, Bambu': How one private message could change the face of 3D printing

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Post by justinclift »

the_af wrote: post #85
justinclift wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the article: > Bambu might use its software to lock its printers to its own filament and accessories and start charging for subscription services, the way today’s inkjet printer companies do. Bambu did not deny those possibilities when we asked [...]

Today's inkjet printers charge mandatory subscriptions and lock you to their supplies? If so, much has changed since I owned one. I know they always scare you into buying their things, but never locked you into it. My HP laser (not inkjet) printer will happily accept third party toner cartridges.

> Today's inkjet printers charge mandatory subscriptions and lock you to their supplies?

I guess you're not aware HP has been doing this for a few years now?

Re: 'Fuck you, Bambu': How one private message could change the face of 3D printing

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Post by the_af »

hju22_-3 wrote: post #57
the_af wrote: post #31

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We Linux desktop people aren't fighting our desktop anymore. Everything just works and it has for some years now. Linux with Steam + Proton is a better gaming platform than MacOS, by the way. The Year of the Linux Desktop arrived a while ago and nobody noticed :)

> Everything just works and it has for some years now. Strange then, that so many people and particularly those who haven't spent years or decades fighting their OS or desktop environment, seem to disagree. Every time a linux user says "everything just works" there's a massive gotcha. Remove the terminal and try to use a linux system, setting everything up, while properly roleplaying those who haven't spent years to…

I mean, I mentioned Steam and Proton, every game works now and you don't have to do anything. What's less "terminal user" than that?

I suggest you try it now, I think you're stuck on outdated knowledge.

Re: 'Fuck you, Bambu': How one private message could change the face of 3D printing

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Post by [deleted] »

VorpalWay wrote: post #42
the_af wrote: post #29

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I don't know about other brands or even models, but I can attest that the Bambu A1 Mini "just works". I precisely wanted to avoid another hobby, of which I have too many already. 3D printing as a hobby doesn't appeal to me, I just wanted something that solved the problem and was relatively cheap. The A1 is this for me, it's as close as a fire and forget appliance as I could find. Not saying there aren't better altern…

The A1 mini has turned out to be a fire hazard as of recently. Some component in the power supply that can explode and in the worst case catch fire. Multiple events during the last year, and shockingly it hasn't been recalled. You probably don't want to run yours while not in the room.

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Re: 'Fuck you, Bambu': How one private message could change the face of 3D printing

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Post by techjamie »

altmanaltman wrote: post #16
DoctorOetker wrote: post #10

So Bambu's argument hinges on "impersonation" claim of Jarczak's modified client using the same user agent string? If a user compiles official BambuStudio from source, does BambuLabs then also claim their non-bit-identical client is also impersonating the "real" BambuStudio? Or are they abusing user agents strings as authentication mechanism? If they don't consider it abuse, but rather legitimate use of agent strings…

I mean if you do enter a legal case, they cannot just laugh away and be like "oh DoctorOetker such a silly case". They will have to take it seriously and follow all legal procedures. I don't know why people think law is some commonsense topic when it's highly technical and domain-based.

That's called a motion to dismiss and it does happen. Maybe it wouldn't in this particular case, but not every case gets the full 9 yards of examination if one side's argument is bad enough.
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